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    Tobacco Token Old? $$?

    I don't know if this token is that old or if it's worth anything but it's one of my favorites, found is old house back yard this spring when there was still a little snow on the ground!
    SCHERMANN & CO MILWAUKEE on the obv. and on the rev. CIGARS & TOBACCO WHOLESALE & RETAIL 274 WEST WATER ST.
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    Nice find . Can find any info on Schermann yet but will keep looking!.
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

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    Re: Tobacco Token Old? $$?

    The name is actually E. ASCHERMAN & CO. It's a Civil War "store card" (merchant's token, typically traded as a cent), and I believe it's the variety listed as #WI510A-1a in U.S. Civil War Store Cards by George & Melvin Fuld.


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    Wow, I knew somebody would be able to tell me something, thanks so much.
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

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    Wow, we knew PBK would be the one to know about it!
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    Jul 2006
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    After getting that info from PBK (thanks again) I went on the net and did some more digging- I couldn't believe what I read- they say that in terms of how rare it is that it's a R8 on a scale of 1-10 with ten being one of a kind. After a survey of all the known large collectors or dealers or whatever they came up with a census of there being between 4-9 of these known! Wow, too bad it's not a coin that rare- I would be rich. I don't think I will ever find anything more rare than this!
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

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    PBK
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    Re: Tobacco Token Old? $$?

    It's a neat find, all right. The most common variety is rated R5. If the edge is reeded rather than plain, R8; if the metal is brass or copper-nickel rather than copper, R9; if the reverse is an incuse of the obverse, R10.

    Couple of links you might enjoy checking out:

    http://www.cwtsociety.com/

    http://www.exonumia.com/links.htm


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    DANG!! I didn't read all that! I seen a picture of it and I said yep, that's it... I will have to check it for the other mentioned characteristics when I get home today.. I'm all but positive that it's copper- no brass. I'm pretty sure that it's a reeded edge. thanks for the additional info- appreciate it!
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

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    I checked it yesterday and it does have a reeded edge *YIPEE!!!!* Now my question would be how can I tell for sure what it's made of? I'm not sure what a copper-nickel alloy would look like.. I would think that I would recognize if it were brass although with the age I might not.. I'm really not sure what it is made of.. it doesn't seem quite right to be copper but it could be my imagination.... can anybody give me a guess by looking at the scan? The scan is true in terms of color, it looks the same in my hand as in the scan.. Thanks!
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

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    Very nice find, WTG!!!
    Looks to be in very good condition too, ex-specally for it's age...
    Continued Good luck, & Happy hunting~

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    PBK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonman17
    I checked it yesterday and it does have a reeded edge *YIPEE!!!!* Now my question would be how can I tell for sure what it's made of?
    As far as I know, the reeded-edge variety was struck only in copper. Catalog #WI510A-1a1


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    Hmm.. that's probably what it is then... it's the same size as a penny it just doesn't "feel" like one. Perhaps I have a unique piece No, I would never be that lucky. Thanks again PBK for all your help.
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

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    PBK
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    Re: Tobacco Token Old? $$?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonman17
    Hmm.. that's probably what it is then... it's the same size as a penny it just doesn't "feel" like one. Perhaps I have a unique piece No, I would never be that lucky. Thanks again PBK for all your help.
    Anytime!

    BTW, the copper-nickel (CN) tokens are pretty much the same alloy as used for the early, so-called "white" Indian Head cents. In fact, some Civil War tokens were struck using those same cents as planchets:

    http://www.indiancent.com/market/801616017.jpg


 

 

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