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Jun 08, 2011, 05:10 PM
#1
I'm Pissed!!!
OK here's what happened. I got off work a little early and decided to try hunting around the RR bridge at the Yadkin River.. I was there about 20 mins and a Norfolk Southern Police Officer came out of nowhere! He told me to stop what I was doing. He proceeded to tell me I was trespassing.. I told him that I wasn't aware of that, I saw no signs and I was on what I thought was a path.. He grabbed my detector out of my hand and said that I was coming with him.. I proceeded to try to get my detector back not being belligerent or anything! I followed him to his car and he started making a phone call.. Me standing there the whole time looking like an idiot!! He finally got out of his car and said I would have to wait until the Local Police got there.. I asked him what was the problem.. He said he was sick and tired of having to come to the bridge for people metal detecting.. He had better things to do.. The local police (East Spencer PD) showed up. They talked and the ESPD issued me a summons for trespassing! I asked about my detector and he said he is going to hold it for evidence.. Now I gotta go to court!! I cant believe this!!!
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Jun 08, 2011, 05:31 PM
#2
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
That pisses me off just hearing it!!! If the cops are sick and tired of going out there then common sense would dictate to put up a no trespassing sign! Just to be safe, I would talk to an attorney if I were you and see what your options are. As far as talking to the law is concerned,be cool,polite and intelligent and educate yourself as much as possible on the law you allegedly broke. Good luck with all of this NONSENSE!!! This is a general law in MA, see if your state has this or something similar~
Chapter 265 Section 37. No person, whether or not acting under color of law, shall by force or threat of force, willfully injure, intimidate or interfere with, or attempt to injure, intimidate or interfere with, or oppress or threaten any other person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the constitution or laws of the commonwealth or by the constitution or laws of the United States. Any person convicted of violating this provision shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than one year or both; and if bodily injury results, shall be punished by a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars or by imprisonment for not more than ten years, or both.
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Jun 08, 2011, 05:38 PM
#3
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
That really sucks dude. Sorry to hear that happenned to you. The first think I would do is to go there and take a lot of pictures of the area BEFORE they put up any signs to prove your case. I would hope at least you will get your detector back. Good Luck
DS
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Jun 08, 2011, 05:40 PM
#4
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
Sounds like you were on RR property without permission. If you fell and got hurt on their property who would be responsible? Don't ever assume it is OK to detect just because there isn't a, "No Trespassing", sign on the property.
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Jun 08, 2011, 05:43 PM
#5
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
Sorry to here this.
What you will now encounter is "Ignorance is no excuse to break the law. "
good luck.
I hope they let you have your detector back.
New toys take time to learn to use: New forums takes time to learn to use! Its why people prefer their old ones.
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Jun 08, 2011, 05:44 PM
#6
 MINELAB XS-2 Pro ....... XTERRA 305 ....... EXPLORER SE PRO
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
I'm Sorry to tell you
all railroad property is Private Property
no trespassing.
Including Crossing it in your car at a Road or driveway.
yes they allow it where necessary But it Protects
them from Law suits.
Unless you have a very good lawyer
Expierenced in constitutional Law,
I'm afraid your out of Luck.
Hopefully they won't use it for an
Excuse to steal your detector.
discriminate out Spike TV and American Diggers !
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Jun 08, 2011, 05:59 PM
#7
 The Cesspool
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
How close were you to the RR tracks? I'm with you and I know it sucks, but legally (posted or not) the R.R. owns the land on either side of the track, somewhere between 25-50 feet depending on where your at. It's a class 4 misdemeanor for the 1st offense. If you were further than that, then I would consult an attorney. You said it was a Norfolk Southern Cop, I don't think he would be out there at that particular spot if someone hadn't notified them of others tresspassing there recently, unfortunately you happened to be the one there, at the wrong time.
DOWN WITH AMERICAN DIGGERS, SAY NO TO SPIKE TV! THEY MAKE ALL OF US LOOK BAD!
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do." Mark Twain
"A handful of common sense is worth a bushel of learning." Unknown
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Jun 08, 2011, 06:05 PM
#8
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
I would also advise you to find out if it is a historical or archeological site. So far trespassing seems to be what they are going with. It could get worse if it is a historical or archeological site.
New toys take time to learn to use: New forums takes time to learn to use! Its why people prefer their old ones.
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Jun 08, 2011, 06:08 PM
#9
 MINELAB XS-2 Pro ....... XTERRA 305 ....... EXPLORER SE PRO
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
If it were me, first thing I'd do
is go to the district Justice where
you pay the fine.
then I would ask IF I Plead guilty
& Pay the fine, do I get my detector back ?
(No need for evidence then)
If they say Yes, I'd pay it.
If they say no, Then I'd get a lawyer.
Unless you Figure the fine & lawyer is more then
your detector is worth of course.
which they may Bank on
discriminate out Spike TV and American Diggers !
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Jun 08, 2011, 06:10 PM
#10
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
Railroad tracks are a no-no. My friend's 10 year old was arrested for walking on the tracks behind his house belonging to Southern Railway and was dragged thru family court and had to pay a $2800 fine.
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Jun 08, 2011, 06:15 PM
#11
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
"He said he was sick and tired of having to come to the bridge for people metal detecting.. He had better things to do.." ummmmmmmm, apparently not!
Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. J. Lennon
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Jun 08, 2011, 10:18 PM
#12
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
So if you pushing a baby carridge while tresspassing would they confiscate the carridge as evidence. What about your wallet, can they take that too? I bet that wedding ring is evidence too - cough it up. Sounds like theft to me. Sue the SOBs.
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Jun 08, 2011, 10:39 PM
#13
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
Some one called them Probably because of all of the thefts of Metal, Good thing your vehicle If you drove Up in one was not Identified our they Would have taken that Also!!!!! Good luck on getting your detector Back Jeff is Giving you good advise!!!!
My self I would go in and Have a fit Cry like a baby!! With real tears to Get Mine Back Chug!!!!
Found my first gold for 2011!!!! One gold and diamond ring, and one 22 carat gold ring from Europe!!!!!
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Jun 08, 2011, 10:42 PM
#14
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
Thanks to all who replied!! I went back and took pictures! No signs! There is alot of construction going on for the new I 85 bridge. I will call the courthouse in he AM to find out what I can do to resolve this asap.. Thanks for the support!!
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Jun 08, 2011, 10:56 PM
#15
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
It is incumbent on any individual to secure written permission from the landowner to enter any property beyond a public right of way that is not owned by themselves .
Ya screwed up , dude . Unfortunately , railroad companies push this to the max . Courts generally
uphold their complaint .
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Jun 08, 2011, 10:58 PM
#16
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
Well, that sucks the big one.
I, too, would check with a lawyer.
Got a couple of questions, though - are their actually tracks that are used?
It's an important question - because there is a Federal deal about "rails to trails", which affects any railroad lines that are no longer used for trains.
Either way, check with a lawyer.
Beth
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Jun 08, 2011, 11:05 PM
#17
 The Pool Table Is My Yard
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
Wow! So a guy jus walkin the tracks could be fined and/or arrested? I have walked the tracks at harpers ferry so many times. Even moved off of em while a train passed, Never knew that! I guess we learn by our mistakes, Unfortinately sometimes we don't even know we are making one!
Theres A Place For All Creatures..Right Next To The Taters And Gravy..
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Jun 08, 2011, 11:09 PM
#18
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
 Originally Posted by poorhunter78
Wow! So a guy jus walkin the tracks could be fined and/or arrested? I have walked the tracks at harpers ferry so many times. Even moved off of em while a train passed, Never knew that! I guess we learn by our mistakes, Unfortinately sometimes we don't even know we are making one!
Ya got some freebies , Ben . RR will prosecute to the max just as a matter of principle .
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Jun 08, 2011, 11:17 PM
#19
 The Pool Table Is My Yard
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
I can't count the number of times I walked them. Packin stringer loads of catfish. Hope lots read this. Hope it works out for the best for Dman.
Theres A Place For All Creatures..Right Next To The Taters And Gravy..
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Jun 08, 2011, 11:56 PM
#20
Re: I'm Pissed!!!
 Originally Posted by lostcauses
I would also advise you to find out if it is a historical or archeological site. So far trespassing seems to be what they are going with. It could get worse if it is a historical or archeological site.
This is a real good possibility.
There was a fort on one side of the bridge and a little altercation with some of Stoneman's Raiders.
You might want to take a better look around for signs.
I have no idea if it is posted or not, but in all likelyhood it is.
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