Those in authority that decide the issues about mding

Tom_in_CA · Jan 13, 2015

Authority that decides issues about md'ing

Ok gang, input on this please:

The city I'm in (Salinas, CA) boasts one of the largest annual Rodeos in the USA. And ..... humorously ..... each year, there's sure to be a few animal rights activists out there with sandwich boards protesting the "cruelty to animals". The media sometimes gives them a little press each year, but .... for the most part, they're ignored.

This got me thinking of the comparison to md'ing. Ie.: To draw a comparison to "animal rights extreme activists", to those in authority whose desks md'ing Q's lands on.

So follow through with this train of thought: If you were to ask one of those animal rights extremists the following question: "Hi. Is it ok if I leave my pet bunny in the car, while I run into 7-11 to get a slurpee?". What do you think they would answer? They would shriek: "Nooohh! That's animal cruelty! The bunny could suffocate in the hot car! You can be arrested, fined, and your car confiscated!!" And they could probably even cite laws and legal codes that would back up their claims!

Now of course we can all laugh at that. Because we know they're in the extreme minority, and that ......... no .... barring something egregious, you are not hurting your bunny, you will not be arrested, and no one else, (besides those few extreme wackos) cares one iota about it.

So what does this have to do with md'ing? Because there is some factions of extreme archies, who bristle at the word "metal detectors". Oh sure, not all of them are purist archies like that, but some are (I have met them).

Thus often time, if ever questions of interpretation get passed up the chain of command for review, if ever a question of ours (someone asking "can I?") ends up on the desk of an archie (they're on govt. payrolls afterall), then .......... it's the same thing as the animal rights wacko & bunny example: They will shriek "Noooohhh!! That's pot hunting and destroying our heritage! You can be arrested, fined, and your car confiscated!!" And they could probably even cite laws and legal codes that would back up their claims!

See the similarities ? Hence I do not put much stock into what some archies say. Even despite even the legal dire things they may cite. If that means staying out of their vision/view? Fine so be it.

Nugs Bunny · Jan 14, 2015

Tom_in_CA said:
Ok gang, input on this please:

The city I'm in (Salinas, CA) boasts one of the largest annual Rodeos in the USA. And ..... humorously ..... each year, there's sure to be a few animal rights activists out there with sandwich boards protesting the "cruelty to animals". The media sometimes gives them a little press each year, but .... for the most part, they're ignored.

This got me thinking of the comparison to md'ing. Ie.: To draw a comparison to "animal rights extreme activists", to those in authority whose desks md'ing Q's lands on.

So follow through with this train of thought: If you were to ask one of those animal rights extremists the following question: "Hi. Is it ok if I leave my pet bunny in the car, while I run into 7-11 to get a slurpee?". What do you think they would answer? They would shriek: "Nooohh! That's animal cruelty! The bunny could suffocate in the hot car! You can be arrested, fined, and your car confiscated!!" And they could probably even cite laws and legal codes that would back up their claims!

Now of course we can all laugh at that. Because we know they're in the extreme minority, and that ......... no .... barring something egregious, you are not hurting your bunny, you will not be arrested, and no one else, (besides those few extreme wackos) cares one iota about it.

So what does this have to do with md'ing? Because there is some factions of extreme archies, who bristle at the word "metal detectors". Oh sure, not all of them are purist archies like that, but some are (I have met them).

Thus often time, if ever questions of interpretation get passed up the chain of command for review, if ever a question of ours (someone asking "can I?") ends up on the desk of an archie (they're on govt. payrolls afterall), then .......... it's the same thing as the animal rights wacko & bunny example: They will shriek "Noooohhh!! That's pot hunting and destroying our heritage! You can be arrested, fined, and your car confiscated!!" And they could probably even cite laws and legal codes that would back up their claims!

See the similarities ? Hence I do not put much stock into what some archies say. Even despite even the legal dire things they may cite. If that means staying out of their vision/view? Fine so be it.

Welcome to California Tom!!! :laughing7:

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Nugs Bunny · Jan 14, 2015

Well there is always ways to vent that frustration without getting into trouble! Lol! :laughing7:

Nugs Bunny · Jan 15, 2015

Tom_in_CA said:
Yes the evil "dig" word is more problematic.

That's not a hole Mate... this is a hole!!!

pong12211 · Jan 15, 2015

California and New York. Where would this country be without their wonderful input.

cudamark · Jan 15, 2015

That's not just a state problem. There are plenty of whackos nationwide.

Charlie P. (NY) · Jan 16, 2015

Hey! Don't blame New York the State. There are 19.7M people in NY State. But the New York MSA (metropolitan area - the five boroughs of NYC and Newark, NJ all in a five mile radius slice of Hell) is 23.4M people. Go figure that one out.

So that means there are negative 3.7M people in the rest of the state. Outside the four major cities there are few people in the whole rest of the state. Usually that's a pretty good thing - but what hope do the sensible people of the state have to outvote that? I live on a road that is five miles long and there are 20 houses on it.

Nugs Bunny · Jan 16, 2015

Charlie P. (NY) said:
Hey! Don't blame New York the State. There are 19.7M people in NY State. But the New York MSA (metropolitan area - the five boroughs of NYC and Newark, NJ all in a five mile radius slice of Hell) is 23.4M people. Go figure that one out.

So that means there are negative 3.7M people in the rest of the state. Outside the four major cities there are few people in the whole rest of the state. Usually that's a pretty good thing - but what hope do the sensible people of the state have to outvote that? I live on a road that is five miles long and there are 20 houses on it.

I lived in Catskill NY for about 8 months back in early 2000, I stayed at the Red Ranch Inn down the road from some resort that looked like a castle. I went swimming at a waterfall up the road from the motel, in the Catskill Mountains. I went swimming at Woodstock.

I went to Niagara, saw the falls saw the Fort, went to the City, saw Times Square and the Trade Center site, went to Bethel saw the original site of Woodstock before they built the museum, went to Rock Tavern visited OC Choppers.

I did a lot of hiking and sightseeing. I LOVE NY! I understand the shirt now!!!!

Awesome place and anybody who has not been there needs to visit.

I almost fell off the highest waterfall in NY, Kaaterskill Falls. Back in the mid 1800's it was as popular as Niagara and there used to be a lodge. It's long gone but I think it would be a great place to swing a detector. I don't know the details but it is open to the public and not a park, it might be worth looking into.

Here are some pictures from Kaaterskill Falls.

People carved their names back when the Lodge was there. Old school graffiti! Thw first one is the edge of the falls... 160 feet down.

This is on the opposite side of the creek at the edge of the falls and upstream facing the falls.

Woodstock town hall and the local swimming hole. That might be another good place to detect. Locals told me they have been swimming there since at least the 60's but probably longer.