OH WELL ! He was making Sense till he Brought up License & Sharing ;

Honest Samuel

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Peyton Manning

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Did I forget to mention that I graduated from HCC majoring in Accounting? Stop crying you all, unless you live in a state with state income taxes like the great state of Connecticut.
It’s our party and we’ll cry if we want to
 

ArfieBoy

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I'm beginning to think that Honest Sam just might be and IRS agent! :laughing7:
 

Dejure

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The "treasure trover" takes 'all' the risks and bears 'all' the expense, but the parasitic bureaucracy always wants its cut. I'm surprised the State of Florida allowed Mel Fisher to keep a single cob from the Atocha wreck. How the State of Florida would have any claim over King Phillip IV's property, is beyond me.

I'd have the same message for the milkman

JG
There is a legal cite which says, we can never be compelled to waive a right conditional to exercising another right, whether common law (e.g., constitutional) or granted by a legislative entity.

"We find it intolerable that one constitutional right should have to be surrendered in order to assert another." Simmons v. U.S., 390 US 389 (1968) .
 

Clay Diggins

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There is a legal cite which says, we can never be compelled to waive a right conditional to exercising another right, whether common law (e.g., constitutional) or granted by a legislative entity.

"We find it intolerable that one constitutional right should have to be surrendered in order to assert another." Simmons v. U.S., 390 US 389 (1968) .
What Constitutional rights are you referring to?
 

Dejure

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What Constitutional rights are you referring to?
Any and all.

Take the post above, about an agent wanting people to, conditional to receiving a permit, give up half of what they find. Such a thing would require people to waive their rights under, for example, the fourth amendment (the right to remain private in your affairs), the fifth amendment (the right to remain silent).

That aside, the above cite has been construed, in law, to mean should not be forced to waive one right conditional to accepting another. That is what is described, you must agree to something before you will be given something.

Hsieh v. Civil Service Commission of City of Seattle, 79 Wash. 2d 529, 488 P.2d 515 (Wa. 08/26/1971)
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[30] Jahn v. Seattle, 120 Wash. 403, 406, 207 P. 667 (1922). We there also took note of then extant United States Supreme Court cases upholding provisions regarding nonemployment of aliens on public work. Heim v. McCall, 239 U.S. 175, 60 L. Ed. 206, 36 S. Ct. 78, Ann. Cas. 1917B 287 (1915); Crane v. People of New York, 239 U.S. 195, 60 L. Ed. 218, 36 S. Ct. 85 (1915). However, see Graham v. Richardson, 403 U.S. 365, 29 L. Ed. 2d 534, 91 S. Ct. 1848 (1971), wherein, in referring to Heim and Crane, the Supreme Court stated: "But this Court now has rejected the concept that constitutional
[79 Wash2d Page 534]
[31] rights turn upon whether a governmental benefit is characterized as a 'right' or as a 'privilege."
 

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