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  1. #1

    Jun 2007
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    Arizona Treasure lead

    ive look at many treasure leads i narizona

    none really seem to be good



    can some one help me find a treasure lead that sounds like it can be true



    ohhhh and the skeleton canyon treasure i read up on that does anyone here think that is true i kindof do but it does seem a little phony


    please help!!!

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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Hello. Before moving to Guam I did some research on the Lost Frenchman, easily looked up on the internet. I found a few references placing the mine in the vicinity of a place called "Tenhachape Pass". There were many trips to libraries throughout the southwest. Strangely enough, I was not able to find any places with this name on old maps or texts except when referencing the Lost Mine. I finally came across a letter to Mr. Ed Hansman, who was obviously looking for the mine also, from Roscoe G. Willson (Roscoe G. Willson went to Arizona in 1902 and worked at Crown King. He did some prospecting before joining the newly organized US. Forest Service in 1905. He put in 14 years with the forest service, resigning in 1919 to run sheep and work in oil fields.In 1924, Willson and his wife Maude opened the Arizona Specialty Company. He sold the business in 1945 to retire. He then he began writing for the Sunday edition of the Arizona Republic in 1947 and continued doing so until his death August 25, 1976 at the age of 97.) Mr. Willson was considered an expert on Arizona. Anyway, I'll quote the letter below dated Aug 21, 1954 and hopefully you or someone else can pick up where this research left off.
    "Dear Mr. Hansman:
    There may be such a pass as Tenhachape but the only ones I know of in that region are the Engasser Pass between the Kofa and Tank Mts., the Little Bighorn Pass between Cemetery Ridge and the Eagle Tails, and Castle Dome Pass between the Horse Tanks and the Castle Dome mine in the Castle Dome Mts.
    Possibly some of these Passes had other names in the past. The Lost Frenchmen is a pure Will-O-The-Wisp.
    Perhaps August Nord at Salome knows of the Tenhachape Pass. He has mined and run cattle there since 1905 or '06.
    I have found several workings , old smelters, etc., said to have been done by the Frenchmen. One is east and the other south of Quartzsite.
    Sincerely,
    Roscoe G. Willson"
    I hope this helps some....and if by chance this information helps you or someone else find something please let me know, just so I can know my research wasn't in vain because it looks like I won't be able to get back out that way for quite some time
    Happy Hunting!

  3. #3
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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    I have a few- where are you located?

  4. #4

    Jun 2007
    12

    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    i live in chandler arizona which is near pheonix



  5. #5
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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Luis de Valdez died of liver cancer in April 1988- he took the location of six chests of gold coins to his grave. Dr. Donato Ibanez was the attending physician. Luis was an illegal who had crossed the border many times. It was on one of these trips he discovered the chests. He gave some gold coins to Dr. Ibanez before he died. Babbling incoherently, all the doctor could make out about the location was it was in a valley somewhere in AZ. (Presumably near the border) The doctor also made out the word "crimson". Several professional THers from both sides of the border have already scoured history books seeing if they could attribute this one or garner more clues.

    I have no idea if it has been recovered or not. It has appeared in the Weekly World News, July 12, 1988 issue, and various Mexican newspapers about that same timeframe.

    Good luck.

  6. #6

    May 2006
    Mesa, AZ
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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Are you familiar with the Lost Dutchman mine? It's not far from you
    Sincerely,
    Randy Wright
    Mix Engineer

  7. #7

    Jun 2007
    12

    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    ya i am familar with it but dont want to go find let alone my dad taking me cuz he heard to many stories about it

  8. #8

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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    The Lost Frenchman has been written about many times. It is also called the Penhachape Mine and the Pen-Hach-A-Pe.

    The oldest written reference I can find is found in John D. Mitchell's 1933 book, "Lost Mines of the Great Southwest." It is unknown if the information in his book is true. There are many other tales of Arizona in this book.

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    Jun 2007
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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Quote Originally Posted by coolgenius91
    ive look at many treasure leads i narizona

    none really seem to be good



    can some one help me find a treasure lead that sounds like it can be true



    ohhhh and the skeleton canyon treasure i read up on that does anyone here think that is true i kindof do but it does seem a little phony


    please help!!!
    Hey Cook!! You just got a really EXCELLENT lead from Jethro, who btw is a walking encyclopedia on leads west of St. Louis! There are many, many lost treasures the SPANISH left behind that have never been documented in newspapers, too! I think it is in Seville Spain where the actual documentation in existence remains unread for centuries to this day!! I would suggest you learn about reading old carved treasure signs instead, and you can find your own leads out in the arizona desert wildernesses yourself. Hope this helps. steven.

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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Quote Originally Posted by coolgenius91
    ive look at many treasure leads i narizona

    none really seem to be good



    can some one help me find a treasure lead that sounds like it can be true



    ohhhh and the skeleton canyon treasure i read up on that does anyone here think that is true i kindof do but it does seem a little phony


    please help!!!

    Cool,

    Here are my AZ leads, maybe one of them could be worth looking into

    Adams Diggings Lost Mine Fort Defiance Apache AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Al-Che-Say Lost Mine Greens Peak Apache AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Monument Valley Lost Mine Mitchell Butte Apache AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Mark Carpenter Lost Mine Silver Creek Apache AZSouthwest 25 Ingots, Ore
    Big House Charleston Cochise AZSouthwest 115000 10 Coins
    Burt Alvord Cochise Cochise AZSouthwest 60000 50 Coins, Ingots
    Chief Cochise Cochise Stronghold Cochise AZSouthwest 200000 75 Coins
    Outlaws Douglas Cochise AZSouthwest 30000 10 Coins
    Pearce Douglas Cochise AZSouthwest 25 Misc. This is an abandoned town.
    Fort Huachuca Fort Huachuca Cochise AZSouthwest 4200000 10 Ingots
    Lafe McKenzie Lost Mine Naco Cochise AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Skeleton Canyon Skeleton Canyon Cochise AZSouthwest 3000000 75 Misc.
    Saloon Tombstone Cochise AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Blackjack Ketchum Wildcat Canyon Cochise AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Herman Wolf Canyon Diablo Coconino AZSouthwest 250000 25 Coins
    Meteor Crater Canyon Diablo Coconino AZSouthwest 50 Jewels
    Canyon Diablo Flagstaff Coconino AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Coconino Lost Mine & Treasure Flagstaff Coconino AZSouthwest 10 Ingots, Ore
    Jackass Dodson Lost Mine & Treasure Flagstaff Coconino AZSouthwest 55000 10 Ingots, Ore
    Padre Lost Mine Flagstaff Coconino AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Roy Gardner Flagstaff Coconino AZSouthwest 15000 10 Coins
    Valise Lost Mine Lava Butte Coconino AZSouthwest 90 Ore
    Mercury Lee's Ferry Coconino AZSouthwest 65000 90 Ore
    Sam Clevenger Lee's Ferry Coconino AZSouthwest 15000 50 Coins
    Silver Mountain Lost Mine Little Colorado River Coconino AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Norman Mountain Lost Mine & Treasure Mormon Lake Coconino AZSouthwest 75 Coins, Ore
    Tom Watson Old Tanner Trail Coconino AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Henry Seymour Pine Gila AZSouthwest 225000 75 Coins
    Rogers Lake Rogers Lake Coconino AZSouthwest 185000 75 Coins
    Sierra Azul Lost Mine San Francisco Peaks Coconino AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Bandit Stoneman Lake Coconino AZSouthwest 50 Coins
    Mose Casner Sycamore Canyon Coconino AZSouthwest 100000 10 Coins
    John D. Lee Lost Mine Vulcan's Throne Coconino AZSouthwest 80000 90 Ore
    Sanders Lost Mine Coon Creek Gila AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Pedro Encinas Lost Mine Fort Apache Navaho AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Two Skeletons Lost Mine Mount Ord Gila AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Old Yuma Lost Mine San Carlos River Gila AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Felix Aubrey Lost Mine Tonto Basin Gila AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Bonita Meadows of Gold Graham AZSouthwest 22000000 10 Ingots
    Black Burro Lost Mine Guthrie Greenlee AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Squaw Hollow Lost Mine Camp Creek Maricopa AZSouthwest 50 Ore
    Epileptic Lost Mine & Treasure Sierra Estrella Mtns. Maricopa AZSouthwest 50000 10 Ingots, Ore
    Stars Lost Mine Sierra Estrella Mtns. Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Tonto Apache Lost Mine Fort McDowell Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Black Maverick Lost Mine Four Peaks Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    German Shoemaker Lost Mine Four Peaks Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Puncher Bob Lost Mine Four Peaks Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Mad Squaw Lost Mine Gila Bend Mountains Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Cap Linger Lost Mine Hat Mountain Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Wagoner Lost Mine La Barge Canyon Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Manje Lost Mine Mobile Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Squaw Lost Mine Squaw Hollow Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Gonzales Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Jenkins Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    John Carroll Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Peralta Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Madden Lost Mine Vulture Mountains Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Mexican Slave Lost Mine Sand Tank Mountains Maricopa AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Walnut Grove Dam Wickenburg Maricopa AZSouthwest 6000 90 Coins
    Valenzuela Gang Wittmann Maricopa AZSouthwest 25000 10 Ingots
    Stoker Lost Mine Yarnell Yavapai AZSouthwest 25 Ore
    Steamer Gila Crescent Springs Mohave AZSouthwest 40000 50 Coins
    Fort Mohave Fort Mohave Mohave AZSouthwest 75 Coins
    Shepherd Girl Lost Mine Hackberry Mohave AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Soldier Lost Mine Kingman Mohave AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Antlers Lost Mine Peach Springs Mohave AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Nugget Lost Mine Topock Mohave AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Medicine Man Lost Mine Ajo Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Olla Ajo Pima AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Soapmaker Lost Mine Ajo Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Tucson Mission Ajo Pima AZSouthwest 10 Misc.
    Montezuma Ajo Mt. Pima AZSouthwest 10 Misc.
    Carreta Canyon Arivaca Pima AZSouthwest 895000 10 Misc.
    Cerro Colorado Arivaca Pima AZSouthwest 70000 50 Ingots
    De Estine Shepherd Lost Mine Arivaca Pima AZSouthwest 5000000 10 Ingots, Ore
    Padillo Lost Mine Arivaca Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Sopori Lost Mine Arivaca Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Old Papago Lost Mine & Treasure Baboquivari Mountains Pima AZSouthwest 400000 10 Ingots, Ore
    Soldiers' Lost Mine Baboquivari Mountains Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Black Princess Lost Mine Cerro Colorado MountainsPima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    John Clark Lost Mine Cerro Colorado MountainsPima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Colossal Cave Colossal Cave Pima AZSouthwest 60000 50 Coins
    Silver Stairway Lost Mine Gunsight Wells Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Cienega Benders Pantano Pima AZSouthwest 75000 75 Coins
    Rincon Cave Rincon Mountains Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ingots
    Canyon of Gold Lost Mine Santa Catalina MountainsPima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Escalante Lost Mine & Treasure Santa Catalina MountainsPima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    La Esmerelda Santa Rosa Mountains Pima AZSouthwest 10 Misc.
    Lost Papago Mine Santa Rosa Mountains Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Red Rock Silver Bell Mountains Pinal AZSouthwest 10 Ingots
    Santa Lucia Lost Mine & Treasure Table Mountain Pinal AZSouthwest 5000000 10 Ingots, Ore
    Val Verde Topawa Pima AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Orphans Lost Mine Tule Tank Pima AZSouthwest 90 Ore
    Dry Washer Lost Mine Twin Buttes Pima AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Montezuma Lost Mine & Treasure Sierra Estrella Mtns. Pinal AZSouthwest 1650000 10 Ingots, Ore
    Broken Pitcher Lost Mine Grayback Mountain Pinal AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Wagon Trail Montezuma's Head Pinal AZSouthwest 50000 10 Coins
    Dr. Thorne Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Pinal AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Dutchman Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Pinal AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Miner Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Pinal AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Soldiers Lost Mine Superstition Mountains Pinal AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Austerlitz Arivaca Pima AZSouthwest 25 Misc. This is an abandoned town.
    Carrizo Creek Lost Mine Nogales Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    La Piedra Blanca Nogales Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 50 Coins
    Old Guevavi Nogales Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Misc.
    Pete Kitchen Ranch Nogales Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 20000 75 Coins
    Mountain of Noise Pajarito Mountains Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 15350000 10 Ore
    Purisima Concepcion Lost Mine Pajarito Mountains Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    John Ward Patagonia Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Cienega Brothers Pontano Canyon Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 75000 10 Coins
    Bella of Old Guevavi Lost Mine San Cayetano Mountains Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    San Cayetano Lost Mine San Cayetano Mountains Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    San Pedro Lost Mine San Cayetano Mountains Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Virgin Guadalupe Lost Mine Tubac Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Guadalupe Tumacacori Mission Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 25000000 10 Ingots
    Opata Lost Mine & Treasure Tumacacori Mission Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ingots, Ore
    Tumacacori Tumacacori Mission Santa Cruz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    ****** Ben Lost Mine Antelope Peak Yavapai AZSouthwest 75 Ore
    Black Mesa Lost Mine Black Mesa Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ore &
    If we meet and you forget me...you have lost nothing.
    If you meet Jesus Christ and forget him...you have lost everything!

  11. #11
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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Cool,

    opps...here is the rest. The forum won't do the whole list in one shot.

    Black Mesa Lost Mine Black Mesa Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Horsethief Basin Bradshaw Mountains Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Lord Duppa Lost Mine Bradshaw Mountains Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Lost Pick Lost Mine & Treasure Bronco Canyon Yavapai AZSouthwest 80000 10 Ingots, Ore
    Nazi Rulers Chloride Mohave AZSouthwest 30000000010 Coins
    Major Peeples Lost Mine Congress Yavapai AZSouthwest 75 Ore
    Organ Grinder Lost Mine Humboldt Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Gallegos Lost Mine Mohon Peak Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Montezuma Well Montezuma Castle Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Monument Valley Prescott Yavapai AZSouthwest 75000 10 Ingots
    Red Jack Almer Prescott Yavapai AZSouthwest 8000 10 Coins
    Golden Cup Rich Hill Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ingots
    Geronimo Lost Mine Sycamore Canyon Yavapai AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Planet Bill Williams River La Paz AZSouthwest 25 Misc. This is an abandoned town.
    Jim Carson Lost Mine Brenda Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Cowboy Lost Mine Cibola La Paz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    La Paz Colorado River La Paz AZSouthwest 25 Misc. This is an abandoned town.
    Rancho de los Yumas Colorado River Yuma AZSouthwest 90 Coins
    Sunlit Cave Treasure Colorado River Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ingots
    Orme Lost Mine Culling's Well Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Castle Dome Lost Mine Castle Dome Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Old Pete Lost Mine Gila Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Woodcutter Lost Mine Gila Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    San Ysidro Gila Valley Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Coins
    Belle McKeever Granite Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 90 Ore
    Shorty Alger Lost Mine Harcuvar Mountains La Paz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Bicuner Mission Laguna Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Lone Indian Lost Mine Laguna Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Pancho Lost Mine Little Horn Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Irishman Mexican Border Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Six Shooter Lost Mine Parker La Paz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Wagon Lost Mine Parker La Paz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Kofa Quartzsite La Paz AZSouthwest 25 Misc. This is an abandoned town.
    Glory Hole Lost Mine Salome La Paz AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Camel's Tank Lost Mine Tank Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Four Frenchmen Lost Mine Tenhachape Pass Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Squawman Lost Mine Tinajas Atlas Mountains Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Jabonero Lost Mine Tule Well Yuma AZSouthwest 10 Ore
    Lincoln-Glanton Yuma Yuma AZSouthwest 80000 90 Coins
    John Nummel Lost Mine Yuma Wash Yuma AZSouthwest 50 Ore


    Hope there is something here to help you

    Timberwolf
    If we meet and you forget me...you have lost nothing.
    If you meet Jesus Christ and forget him...you have lost everything!

  12. #12
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    Dec 2005
    Arizona
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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Timberwolf,

    Can you give me any information about the "Stoker Lost Mine"?

    Thank you,

    Joe Ribaudo

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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Quote Originally Posted by cactusjumper
    Timberwolf,

    Can you give me any information about the "Stoker Lost Mine"?

    Thank you,

    Joe Ribaudo
    Just this:
    Stoker Lost Mine Yarnell Yavapai AZSouthwest 25 Ore

    Timberwolf
    If we meet and you forget me...you have lost nothing.
    If you meet Jesus Christ and forget him...you have lost everything!

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    Dec 2005
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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Timberwolf,

    Thanks anyway. Obie Stoker was the brother of Sam Huston Stoker who was my grandfather. Never heard about the Lost Stoker Mine.

    Joe Ribaudo

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    Re: Arizona Treasure lead

    Joe,

    I have never heard of this mine, and I have never looked for a mine location, but I would think that it would be similar to finding a cache.
    You allready have the name Stoker, the location is near the town of Yarnell , in Yavapai county AZ. You are probably not looking for land owned by Stoker, but a claim. I'm not familiar with claims either, but would guess there is a record of each claim filed. Find out where these records are for the city of Yarnell and or the claim records for Yavapai county. Start there and see what information can be learned. If this doesn't get you anywhere, talk to the local historical society in that area. The local library or county court house can be some of your best resources. One last thought, talk to the old timers there. They can sometimes be very helpfull.

    Timberwolf
    If we meet and you forget me...you have lost nothing.
    If you meet Jesus Christ and forget him...you have lost everything!

 

 
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