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    $100,000 in Gold 1849

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    Interesting story.....
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    I think the story would be more believable if it had appeared in a local newspaper in Colorado.

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    News was carried across the country when it happened. A good example is the buried gold of the miser Tom Kelly at Dubuque, Iowa. Even newspapers in Penn. carried reports.
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    Guy waits thirty years to return?
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    There are several types of lost treasure stories. Generally it is up to the reader to decide. Some have flaws and some hold water when one looks into them.
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    My thought on the story is that it is made up to sell news papers. If you notice there are no state, towns, cities, landmarks listed to go by. Only stories of people that had an interest in the treasure. The west is a very big place.

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    Thanks Jeff I love these stories. Many of course are just stories. And some interesting points have been made. However these stories should be written off too quickly.

    For example the town of Clifford is now a ghost town.

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    All the names mentioned in the above newspaper story are real. In the 1920 census there was 132 people living there.

    James wills was a farmer as well as E Lee Elkins and Thomas Hatton was farmers around Clifford. By the 1930 Clifford was abandoned and they moved to Hugo a few miles away. But still by 1930 conducted farming activity there.

    James will 1920 census below

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    E Lee Elkins 120 census below

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    Thomas Hatton 1920 census below.

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    If the story was just fake story? The the fake story was woven around real people?

    Yet it may be possible to trace the land each of the 3 mention above to triangulate a search area.

    Kanacki
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    The date on stone was perhaps not the date of the robbery but a birth date?

    Interesting enough in the Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995 DEATH, BURIAL, CEMETERY & OBITUARIES

    There was a Joseph F. Lawe whose birth date Birth was about 1847? His Birth Place:New York His Death Date: 28 Feb 1878 Place of Death Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo, Michigan.
    Death Age: 31 Occupation: Farmer Race: White Marital status: Married Gender: Male

    FHL Film Number: 984130

    This is the only record of a possible Joseph Fox Lawe coincidence perhaps? But have a birth date matching exactly to the date written on the stone?

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    I don't know about anyone else... But if I had the opportunity I would detect the entire town of Clifford.

    The info of the town and Kanacki's pictures invokes a serious "urge"... Even if treasure story was fake. heh
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    Hello AARC

    It would be worthwhile just to detect the foundations of the ghost town of Clifford in itself. as you can see there are still foundations of some of houses. The town according with 1920 census had a 132 people living there. Its downfall began in 1930's with the great depression and the drought that created the great dust storms of the middle of the decade of the 1930's. Rural poverty was at its worst in the region.

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    The pictures above illustrates the tough time facing people people in Clifford. Most residents moved away many of farmers moved to nearby town of Hugo by the mid 1930s . All 3 farmers was only tenant farmers so in times of adversity they would of suffered terribly.

    Kanacki
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    I think just in iron artifacts alone it would be worth it.

    There was a time when this place was doing good and those drops prolly still exist simply due to the fact everyone else thinks "there's nothing there".

    See...

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    While the story was published in 1935 at beginning of the great dust bowl in 1935. Other newspaper stories speculated that the man Wills met was just spinning a yarn. But when stones was found it seems a little more to the story which to have appeared in the 1920's. If Wills had met this man searching for these stone markers who told him at the time the money was buried 30 years about that would place the date of the robbery at a much latter date? Around the decade of the 1870's. Wills has been recorded as a farmer from at least 1913. We are not sure the exact date wills met this man?

    In keeping an open mind on the context of the story here is another newspaper story. Strange enough the story made it all the way to Australia.

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    Hello AARC

    Here is a very rough estimate of 3 farms. Banking on the fact the three farmers had land next each other and each stione of been in line of site to be of any use. We could possibly calculate a rough idea what gulches this alleged coins are buried? Given the very nature of the ground gulches are ravines made by water channels. It is possible that in one of these gulches that traverses the property that money might be still hidden?

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    Admittedly it is still a large search area. But due to the nature of such channels perhaps the coins are close enough to the surface to be picked up by a metal detector?

    And factor to considering the 1930;s Lincoln county was several affect but dust storms stripping away soil that was most likely why the stone was uncovered. You see map below of states and county affected by dust storms.

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    Here is another illustration of what a hard life James wills had. His son to escape poverty left the land and joined the United States Navy and one of first Sailors killed at Pearl Harbour in 1941. James will was still farming but living in a town called Hugo Colorado in 1940 census.

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