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  1. #1641
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    G'd morning Deducer, coffee? I repeat again, one must differentiate between the lowly, expendable mission Jesuit and the ones from Rome who were more directly being employed to further Romes' finances. Money was power to advance your particular interpretation of the written word.

    When one assumes that he has correctly interpreted the Lords' word via the Bible, then anything required to teach it or too advance it, was acceptable, regardless of any other agreement.

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp View Post
    G'd morning Deducer, coffee? I repeat again, one must differentiate between the lowly, expendable mission Jesuit and the ones from Rome who were more directly being employed to further Romes' finances. Money was power to advance your particular interpretation of the written word.

    When one assumes that he has correctly interpreted the Lords' word via the Bible, then anything required to teach it or too advance it, was acceptable, regardless of any other agreement.

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    Don Jose,

    Are you now saying that the mission Jesuits were not the ones, for the most part, involved in mining in Mexico?

    Take care,

    Joe

  4. #1643
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    Cactusjumper wrote
    Don Jose,

    Are you now saying that the mission Jesuits were not the ones, for the most part, involved in mining in Mexico?
    I believe that has always been his position, that the mining was handled exclusively and separately by the Coadjutors rather than the padres, which is probably somewhat true, as they were responsible for the "temporal" aspects of the mission, however I would point out to Don Jose that ALL business concerns of all missions were the full responsibility, and under full authority of, the padres themselves. So while the padre might not be standing as overseer at the mines, he had full control over the operation and financial aspects of it. Remember, Coadjutors were fully under the "command" of the padres at the missions, they were not independent operators.

    Good luck and good hunting amigos I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
    Oroblanco
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco View Post
    Cactusjumper wrote


    I believe that has always been his position, that the mining was handled exclusively and separately by the Coadjutors rather than the padres, which is probably somewhat true, as they were responsible for the "temporal" aspects of the mission, however I would point out to Don Jose that ALL business concerns of all missions were the full responsibility, and under full authority of, the padres themselves. So while the padre might not be standing as overseer at the mines, he had full control over the operation and financial aspects of it. Remember, Coadjutors were fully under the "command" of the padres at the missions, they were not independent operators.

    Good luck and good hunting amigos I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
    Oroblanco
    Roy,

    As you have just pointed out, that position is illogical and unlikely.

    Take care,

    Joe
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