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    looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    I know there are some of these maps floating around, some are differant than others.
    Its a good bet none are real copies, I'd yet like to see one.
    Anyone have one you could e-mail me at C15Stars@aol.com or PM me.

    Thanks Roadquest
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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Clayton I sent you another email this evening , hope it helps out
    I have been pounding my head against the wall all day long as I had a lot of notes and a map someplace about him
    I haven't even hit fifty yet and I am losing it
    MesaB

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Buddy, I got the e-mails..I well e-mail you, hang in there
    we are about the same age. I just make notes of what I'm doing ,then...
    I forget where i put the notes..

    Clayton
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    Sometime's there's only one way.

    Where there is no economy, people will create one.

    No one rule fit's all

    '' 17 Tons of Gold in New Mexico " Thread started in 2005.

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Hey youse wiseguys

    he he

    go to PINE SPRING in Rucker Canyon of the Organ Mountains

    There is a large boulder there
    before the boulder is a Pine coming out of the bank
    of the wash horizonally
    then makes a 90 degree turn straight up


    sit there and look a little north east towrds
    Granit peak

    head that way

    up there, follow the monuments

    sooner or later
    you will find a site in that area

    remove stones
    uncover a flat stone door
    used to be a chain around the niches carved in the edge of that door

    the chain went inside the cave and was wrapped
    around a beam stuck in a hole on the floor and in the ceiling

    was 330 bars inside there in 1972
    a few were removed and hidden elsewhere.

    Then, go to the tules at the south base of Soledad peak
    look south
    you will see a deep wash

    walk up there a few hundred yards

    above is a set boulder
    find the small dry waterfall
    there is the covered spring of Navaraz

    From that point, look north back to the road

    you will be looking up Dorcey Canyon

    stay out of there
    thats mine

    anyway, there is a bluff at the end of the west ridge of Dorcey

    Go down there
    Beneath some trees
    and behind a boulder with small rocks set
    on top
    you will find the sencil painting of the turtel
    and the 12 dots that denote
    rods
    each rod is 15 1/2 feet
    go in the direction indicated which is east
    by that increment.

    at the base of the bluff
    you will see where the rock has been cut away
    that is the top most part of the cave entrance


    Now, walk east on the road
    look north at the ridge that ends at Soledad Peak

    You will see a Yellow patch on stone
    go to it

    Behind that yellow patch that stands out brightly
    is another cache.

    Up in the saddle of the ridge behind it
    is found some big boulders
    as Pedro states
    look close for the signs on these

    In that area
    buried
    can be found more treasure

    Standing at that point
    survey the land to the southeast across canyon

    look for stones on top of Boulders
    use bi-nocs

    up there near that covered spring
    on top of a boulder
    will be found small rocks laid out as Turtels
    pulling carts
    the small rocks are square that make the carts

    a way of say several carts were brought there
    the contents dumped in a vault
    and buried up.

    Right under that boulder
    is the Locale of the treasure from those carts.

    Now, walk back to Issachs cabin
    the one in the middle of Soledad
    it is the one that still has a roof on it
    and two doors facing up North Canyon.

    To the east of this cabin on the south wall of the wash can be seen a turtle rock

    go south, seek more monuments from that one
    watch for the carvings low on some boulders

    you are headed up Beasley Canyon at this point.

    A Spanish sword was removed from a cave there
    and breast plate and helmet

    In that cave, check the walls for plastered over stone wall
    behind that false wall
    more stuffs.

    Return to Soledad
    Head west

    Before Chiminy Rock, walk North
    Study the very old trees

    Watch for carvings on a few of them

    Note that near one
    is a stack of small rocks
    your home at that point.

    Go back east now

    Turn North up North Canyon where the
    delapitated cabin sits in the mouth of the canyon

    STOP, stand at the east end of that cabin
    Look EAST

    you will see close to the base of the sloping ridge
    a hugh Boulder with a 4 ft, stone monument on top of it

    go to it
    look for any marks
    no matter how faint the carvings are

    another site with more in it.


    Head Back now to the tulie
    there the wash runs north again
    go down the wash
    find the pools carved into the bedrock to catch the placer
    STOP, LOOK AROUND,,, SEE ANY MONUMENTS ?

    go up there
    seek a cave the door of which is covered

    also
    in that area
    is a hugh boulder
    beneath it, is a spiral staicase in a perfectly round tunnel going straight down

    beware, not too safe going down.

    Now, head norht after that
    there is a boulder, hard to find, beneath is a tunnel heading north
    There is a stone wall blocking any further
    travel
    you will find my dads attempt to break through that wall

    watch for water trap behind that wall
    but, this is the 11th year of drought here
    so most likely no water behind it


    good luck

    Rog'

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Rog. Thanks for all the great information. Good to hear from you.
    Its been awhile. How have you been doing?

    Clayt.
    Sometime's there's not a right way, or a wrong way.
    Sometime's there's only one way.

    Where there is no economy, people will create one.

    No one rule fit's all

    '' 17 Tons of Gold in New Mexico " Thread started in 2005.

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    This Canyon has two passes ( Soledad Canyon )

    One where the sun rises ( East end, where Soledad Peak is )

    and one where the sun sets ( west end,, where chiminy Rock stands like a thumb)


    Get it?

    Climb the greater mountain
    He means PEAK, ( Soledad Peak )

    Get it ?

    The Lesser Peak, is the Ice Cream Cone shaped peak to
    the east of Soledad Peak
    Get it ?


    In Between the two
    are the monument stones set up

    dozens of them.
    One, is clearly seen from the tulies
    pointing west and a bit north.

    Get it

    Here read the letter ,,, it says
    These signs are on the right as you
    enter the canyon and NOT VERY FAR INSIDE THE CANYON.
    thats
    coming into Soledad from the eastside

    Now, Before you enter from the east
    about a mile before the Beasley trading post
    on the northside of the road
    you will find a rectangular shaped stone corral

    hugh one
    thats the Pony Pen

    where they kept the beast of burden.

    coming along the road going west
    again on the north side of the road
    and near the wash
    you will find a square flat boulder about two feet
    high and about 8 feet long
    on the southside of that boulder is a horseshoe
    carved in it pointing toe down

    dig away,,, do not let the military catch you.


    Dig on the opposit side from the horseshoe

    beneath is a vault.

    many mule loads of silver there
    unless the military already snagged it.


    Now, go to dripping springs
    park
    head up ice canyon

    at the turn in the wash where it heads east
    STOP
    Look up at the bluff

    do you see the kneeling Nun?

    she is looking down on a hugh deposit

    both sides of the canyon
    will be found a cave at the bottom of each bluff

    turn around head back to the parking lot

    go up Filmore Canyon

    just past the waterfall
    look towards the Modoc mine
    on the slop coming at you
    see that hugh boulder with the pointer rock

    go up canyon now
    look south
    see another hugh boulder with a rock on top ?
    Up above that to the south
    is Padre La Rues two room cave

    keep going up Filmore
    find a hugh boulder at the entrance
    to the Narrows
    there is a conical shaped stone sticking up on it
    thats the hat rock

    dig like a twinkie crazed badger under it
    bars were removed from ther
    but more are further below


    Go back to La Rues cave
    look out the small window hole down into the canyon
    everything he hid
    can be seen from that window.

    he liked to keep watch on his goods.


    Rog'

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    OK

    Now that you are done with that portion

    go to the east side out of Soledad Canyon
    from there, walk north

    eventually after crossing sever 30 feet deep washes
    you will see globe spring
    there is a hugh round boulder setting
    ontop of a flat hardrock patio of sorts
    a cave entrance to a tunnel behind it
    stay out
    nothing in there

    stay on the nrthside of the wash and walk into glendale canyon
    you will see a small hill at the mouth of the canyon
    the sand of the wash is rich in placer

    go past the small hill
    to the right on the north ridge
    not high up
    is a hugh boulder the size of a suburban
    a hugh dead tree lays over it
    with a bee hive in a knot hole

    go behind it
    some rocks are thrown up at the base of a stone bluff
    an old rotted beam is covered in them

    remove the debry
    there a small cave is buried up

    inside

    precious to some people type metal

    Cross canyon back to the west side of the small hill
    look for 3 trees planted in a triangle

    in the center of the trees
    treasure buried,,, EXACT CENTER OF THE TRIANGLE

    Up the ridge is Granit peak
    there can be found by careful search
    what is refered to as MUCHO DENIERO CAVE
    (Much money cave)

    again a false wall in the cave and must be broken into

    Go now to the small hill and climb to the top

    see the stones set up as ramparts ?
    to protect the entrance of the canyon from attack?

    Note that there is a stone set over an entrance into a verticle shaft up ther
    Doc Noss style entrance.

    No, he was never here in this one.

    While up there, look at the ridges on both sides of the canyon
    somewhere up there on one of them
    can be found two of three canon
    one fell off and is at the base of the bluff
    the wooden cart it was on rotted apart, and the canon
    rolled off the bluff.


    Now
    Leave Glendale Canyon
    walk Norht again untill
    you reach the mouth of Johnson Canyon

    See the Kidney Shaped stacked stone walls?
    there again we have the pony pen corral

    walk into the canyon
    Look for a Boulder set up on four smaller stomes

    thats a square boulder

    go passed that and stay on the southside of the main wash

    Find a Boulder with small rocks on top set as
    though a pointer

    count the rocks there on top
    that how many mules were used to carry the bags of goods in there to be buried

    There is a Chiminy on the left of the canyon,,, hugh thumb like stone wall
    Walk to the base of it
    walk the wash watching for human bones

    above the wash on the left a bit will be found a carved trench in
    the bedrock to deflect the water away from a vault beneath
    a big flat square boulder.

    Enough Gold for ten men
    for ten lifetimes each.

    That is Aztec Gold
    Icons and statues
    as well as trinkets.

    Go now down to the spring which is right now dry
    Look around in the dirt
    and there is Aztec pottry shards still there to be recovered.

    More Aztec stuffs is in the area
    But, why bother
    the hole has more then anyone man would ever need .


    Get out of there now
    and drive through San Augustine pass to Aguirre springs

    Look up Indian Hollow
    the hollow is on the northside of the sugarloaf peak

    Walk up into the hollow

    A cave in the bank of the wash is there somewher ,,, hard to describe directions
    to it in type

    anyway
    it is very low in the bank and mostly covered
    be careful
    the guy who entered it in the 30's was bitten by a rattle snake

    inside the cave he found another flat boulder
    with a cross carved on top of it

    the boulder sets over the hole cat vetically
    into the bedrock
    can't say whats there
    might be a tomb
    might be treasure
    might be a mine.

    don't know
    can't say


    Rog'

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Hey,,, i missed your reply roadquest

    sheeesh
    I'm fine
    about to get back home to Washington right now

    thought i'd turn this treasure stuffs over to the public


    i don't care for it

    Military stole enough
    time for the citizens to get a chance at it.

    Good luck with it

    I have more directions

    i'll do that later maybe.

    Rog'

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    The cave in Indian Hollow
    is one mile west of the old Cox Ranch House.

    left that out
    cause i forgottteeeeed


    Rog'

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    Feb 2006
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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Rog' I think you know where I took this Pic
    Smiles
    Buddy
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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Yet every time they tried to explore the cave, a strange fear and feeling of dread would overtake the whole party, and they would always turn back.” They were sent to a psychic who told them of a man who would lead them into the tunnel without fear. “With this man as their guide they were able to penetrate further into the tunnel…” Deep inside … “the remains of ancient structures and walls made out of well dressed rock were found. They then discovered at this place a spiral staircase built out of cut stones that down, down, down, down into the earth.

    “After some discussion, it was decided that their guide should descent the stairs …

    He did so, following the staircase into the deep bowels of the earth. After some tome, he came to a large room with more cut stone. A gigantic rock-cut throne, big enough for a giant, or two people sitting together, was in the middle of the room.

    “Artifacts were on the walls, though (he didn’t) know what they were. The man returned up the staircase and reported what he discovered. The others tried to convince him to return to the room and bring some of the artifacts back up, but he refused. The team then left the tunnel, and today the entrance is still a secret.”

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Chandler wrote, “In 1937 a half-Indian podiatrist named Doc Noss discovered a cache of Apache gold on what is now the White Sands Missile Range … Much of the treasure was in the form of hundreds of stacked gold bars, plus other artifacts, such as swords, goblets, crowns, statues and other things … Doc Noss was shot and killed by his partner Charlie Ryan in March of 1949 … Noss was known to have taken at least 88 bars of gold out of the hidden tunnels inside the mountain.”

    “Because of an article published in the November, 1968 issue of True Treasure magazine there was renewed interest in the fabulous treasure, and a prospector named Harvey Snow was approached by three ranchers who lived in the area west of the Victorio Peak site. Snow had spent 25 years exploring the entire White Sands area, and the ranchers felt that Snow could lead them into the treasure area, bypassing the Army patrols that guarded the missile range.”
    Because of a story told Snow many years before by a cowboy who had followed Doc Noss to a hidden tunnel, he believed that the treasure was not at Victorio Peak, but on another peak, Hard Scrabble Peak which was also on government property.

    As Mr. Childress tell us; “Snow’s incredible story is then related by Mr. Chandler; “On the second day I found the cave with the sloping steps. I went down the steps; down and down. I don’t know how far. I estimated maybe thirteen hundred or fourteen hundred steps. The bottom step, the last one was rounded at the bottom so that when you stepped on it, it would roll. It was tied to a bow and arrow with rawhide, but the rawhide had rotted a long time ago. I got in there.”

    “”I figured I would come back for that and went on. I next came to a big room. Here there were a bunch of side tunnels running north and south. They were all natural, nothing man made. Here where they intersected, they made a big W. I did not go down these tunnels, I stayed with the stream going west … At the far end of the main room I found some things I cannot tell you about…””


    “Snow’s story is fascinating and virtually unbelievable to most people. He walked 14 miles in an underground tunnel. The 1400 steps or so that he walked down to the subterranean river must have been a good 800 or 900 feet below the entrance. The tunnel was crossed at least in one spot by another tunnel running at a right angle to the one he was following.

    Now do you get it
    Loys of Smiles
    Buddy

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Rog':
    You've been generous with your online information and your on-foot time - thanks. Sorry to hear you're leaving NM - good luck. S.
    "The gods were smiling when you were born. Now they're laughing."​ Chinese fortune cookie

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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Hey RQ,

    I'll throw you a little tease! Are you talking about something like this one from 1823? Don Jose Miguel de Narvaes? This map is saved in a weird format. I can save chunks of it in .jpeg. Just tell what area you need, and I'll email it to you.

    Mike
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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Sorry. Wrong Narvaes. You want his GGGrandaddy(?)!


    Mike
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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    ya, I'd like to have that.

    Clayton
    Sometime's there's not a right way, or a wrong way.
    Sometime's there's only one way.

    Where there is no economy, people will create one.

    No one rule fit's all

    '' 17 Tons of Gold in New Mexico " Thread started in 2005.

  18. #17
    Chris Whewell

    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Quote Originally Posted by treasure minder
    Is there somewhere on the internet I can see what King Solomon's Strikemark looks like ?

    Thanks,

    Chris

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    us
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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    I sent that to him a couple of days ago Black Beard.
    Great minds think alike

    Roadquest
    Sometime's there's not a right way, or a wrong way.
    Sometime's there's only one way.

    Where there is no economy, people will create one.

    No one rule fit's all

    '' 17 Tons of Gold in New Mexico " Thread started in 2005.

  20. #19
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    Re: looking for one of the copies of Pedro Nevarez treasure maps

    Solomons Seal or Strikemark
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