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when i was just a kid i would always hear legends and stories about sam bass , who was said to have robbed a bank in round rock,tx.and was shot in the process,but was said to have made it out of town with the money(gold coins) anyway when he was founded sometime later the gold coins were no where to be found,it was said that before he got to weak he buried the money and all the old timers i always talked with said it was between 1-5 miles out of town on or near the main creek that runs thru town.
i would enjoy hearing from any1 who may know more about this.
my dad told me he knew an old man , and the old man told my dad that he seen when sam bass robbed the bank and when sam bass rode out of town he did have bags he took from the bank hanging from his horse, and later when sam bass was bought back into town none of the law officers had any (bags) with them.

 

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[Amona]

cptbill wrote:

HAY! Marc:
As I mentioned in one of the "Posts", some time back...
I have over 5000+ leads in my research library !

Hey Cptbill

If you know 5000+ treasure leads, why you are not rich?

Amona

 

[cptbil]

? ? Hay! Amona!? ?
Knowing and Finding ? are two VERY! separate and different situations!
But!
If you'd like to come along? ?? and Help Look?? ?
Drop me a line!

 

[Amona]

Hey cptbill

First look this pic and tell me your opinion. I found this "12 or 72" inside a cave three months later after I took a video footage.

Amona

 

[cptbil]

Amona:
Without anything more to go by, that sign/symbol could be/mean anything!? ?
I have several directions,? ? from some old "Spanish Documents", to some mines , but without the "Key" component, I can't use/find them!
I, now!, have to go out (into the field/mnts) and see if I can physically, locate the "key signs".
One "Sign" in particular! (when used with the directions that I already have)
Will point to the trail for several mines!
The point is, that without a more complete picture, just one sign can be something or it can be nothing!

 

[squatch94]

Hey, cedarratt.
How big is this cache and what type of items? i.e. coins, bars, nuggets..... size of the lake and nature of state surroundings? I'm asking, trying to formulate if there's a possible extraction after all. That is if you want to give any details you have. I prefer to believe that nothing is impossible if you have a good plan. 8)

 

[Buck]

How about some info on the Incredible 'LUE' treasure I am waiting Buck

 

[Roaddog]

when i was just a kid i would always hear legends and stories about sam bass , who was said to have robbed a bank in round rock,tx.and was shot in the process,but was said to have made it out of town with the money(gold coins) anyway when he was founded sometime later the gold coins were no where to be found,it was said that before he got to weak he buried the money and all the old timers i always talked with said it was between 1-5 miles out of town on or near the main creek that runs thru town.
i would enjoy hearing from any1 who may know more about this.
my dad told me he knew an old man , and the old man told my dad that he seen when sam bass robbed the bank and when sam bass rode out of town he did have bags he took from the bank hanging from his horse, and later when sam bass was bought back into town none of the law officers had any (bags) with them.

I don't know the story for sure but I live in Round Rock and the story they tell is that Sam Bass came to town to day before he planned to rob the bank to check out the bank. He was carring a gun which was against the law in town and when deputies confronted him about his gun is when the fight started. So according to the local story he never robbed the Round Rock bank. He definitely robbed other banks and trains though.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

[? ? Hay! Amona!? ?;
Knowing and Finding? are two VERY separate and different situations!


I'll back my buddy Captbil on this, he does have tones of excellent stories. Also it is one thing to find them and another to cash in on them.


RealdeTayopa

 

[Parangjim]

hey, Amigo,
I am really intrigued by stories of pirate treasure, so what about a posting about Black Bellamy's and Paulsgrave Williams' treasure vault of Machias Township Maine?

 

[Badger Bart]

Ancient Civilization Beneath Death Valley?

Ancient Civilization Beneath Death Valley?

Bourke Lee, in his book 'DEATH VALLEY MEN' (MacMillan Co., N.Y. 1932), chapter: "Old Gold", describes a conversation which he had several years ago with a small group of Death valley residents. The conversation had eventually turned to the subject of Paihute Indian legends. At one point two of the men, Jack and Bill, described their experience with an 'underground city' which they claimed to have discovered after one of them had fallen through the bottom of an old mine shaft near Wingate Pass.

They found themselves in a natural underground cavern which they claimed to have followed about 20 miles north into the heart of the Panamint Mountains. To their amazement, they allegedly found themselves in an huge, ancient, underground cavern city. They claimed that they discovered within the city several perfectly preserved 'mummies', which wore thick arm bands, wielded gold spears, etc. The city had apparently been abandoned for ages, except for the mummies, and the entire underground system looked very ancient. It was formerly lit, they found out by accident, by an ingenious system of lights fed by subterranean gases. They claimed to have seen a large, polished round table which looked as if it may have been part of an ancient council chamber, giant statues of solid gold, stone vaults and drawers full of gold bars and gemstones of all kinds, heavy stone wheelbarrows which were perfectly balanced and scientifically-constructed so that a child could use them, huge stone doors which were almost perfectly balanced by counter-weights, and other incredible sights. They also claimed to have followed the caverns upwards to a higher level which ultimately opened out onto the face of the Panamints, about half-way up the eastern slope, in the form of a few ancient tunnel-like quays. They realized that the valley below was once under water and they eventually came to the conclusion that the arched openings were ancient 'docks' for sea vessels. They could allegedly see Furnace Creek Ranch and Wash far below them.

They told Bourke Lee that they had brought some of the treasure out of the caverns and tried to set up a deal with certain people, including scientists associated with the Smithsonian Institute, in order to gain help to explore and publicize the city as one of the 'wonders of the world'. These efforts ended in disappointment however when a 'friend' of theirs stole the treasure (which was also the evidence) and they were scoffed at and rejected by the scientists when they went to show them the 'mine' entrance and could not find it. A recent cloud- burst, they claimed, had altered and rearranged the entire countryside and the landscape did not look like it had been before.

When Lee last heard from the two men, Bill and Jack, they were preparing to climb the east face of the Panamints to locate the ancient tunnel openings or quays high up the side of the steep slope. Bourke Lee never did see or hear from his friends ever again.

Is the Bill in the story above Cptbil? Lol. If he goes into the Panamints again next year, I may consider going along.

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Hey, that's a great story. True or false, you can't say It's not Interesting.

 

[modrian]

I agree with Parangjim- a thread devoted to Pirates and their treasure would be fantastic!

 

[Jamesspade2]

I have noticed a certain lack of North West legends in all the posts. I am a new member to this site, but I have been searching for John Welch's cache of gold nuggets for about 5 years. Any info anyone could get me about this legend would be very helpful. I allready have satellite maps and other reasearch done, but the area is about 70% under water. Also, any info about the sentinal mountain gold bullion??

 

[Badger Bart]

One for Jeff - LOST TREASURE OF THE VOYAGEURS

http://www.coudy.com/Austin/Scully4.htm
THE LOST TREASURE OF THE VOYAGEURS
By Francis X. Scully
Those who claim to be "in the know" feel that it is valued over $350,000 by today?s standards, and perhaps even more. Often mentioned by the Senecas in the tales and legends handed down by the elders, the lost treasure of Borie may be the least known of all the hidden wealth yet to be found in America. Yet, there is a good chance that it lies buried somewhere a few miles south of one of the nation?s greatest and busiest highways near Borie, in the heart of the vacation paradise known as God?s Country, Potter County, USA.
Late in the 1690?s, almost a full century before the white man?s first recorded visit to what is now Potter County, a small party of French Canadian voyageurs left New Orleans by raft,for the return trip to Montreal. The planned route was up the Mississippi to the junction of the Ohio and then up the Beautiful River, as the Indians call it, to the Allegheny and then northward to the mouth of the Conewango near present day Warren. From that point, a short run would bring the expedition to Chautauqua Lake near the present day furniture center of Jamestown, New York. From the extreme north end of that muskellunge paradise, the party could practically roll down hill by the way of Prendergrast Creek and then home free by the way of Lake Erie. The entire trip would be made by water, without the danger and travail of long overland, backbreaking portages.
And so the coureur de bois left New Orleans on rafts loaded with provisions and a number of small kegs, each of which were loaded with gold coins covered with a thin film of gunpowder, and anchored securely to the crude log transports by means of ropes and iron nails. The gold was to be delivered to His Most Gracious Majesty?s Royal Governor in Montreal,and the party was instructed to guard the valuable cargo with their lives. Under no circumstances was it to fall into the hands of the English, the Americans nor the hated Senecas, who were always at war with the French.
And so the party consisting of about a score of French runners, two Jesuit priests, and a few Indian scouts made it up the swollen Mississippi without incident, other than to comment on the awesome breadth of the Father of Waters, when at flood stage. It is generally believed that the party spent a week or so at the mouth of the Ohio, in repairing the rafts, and building canoes for the trip up the narrower and swifter streams which the Gauls would encounter as they proceeded further north.
From time to time, the party bumped into hunting Red Men, who were gifted and feted, as only the French could do it. During the evening by firelight the two Black Robes drew maps of the areas that had been visited during the day. The Jesuits for reasons never explained in history books, were the greatest cartographers of their day, and maps made by the great missionaries of that era, survive to this day, remarkable in their accuracy and description. Occasionally the party surveyed locations for forts and settlements, and hunted for provisions to feed the ravenous appetites of the expedition.
All agreed that never had they seen such a paradise as what the English called Pennsylvania, as they entered the Allegheny near the present Golden Triangle of Pittsburgh. Bison grazed in the open meadows and elk browsed in the park-like forests bordering the historic river. The rich bottom lands could produce enough food to feed all of France, mused the French, and rightfully it all belonged to the King of France, by right of discovery, they told themselves. There was one difficulty other than the falls of the Upper Allegheny that the French couldn?t discount, and that was the relentless warriors of the Seneca Nation, whose home the fair skinned Europeans were rapidly approaching. Implacable enemies of the French since the time of Champlain, the fierce warriors would like nothing better than an opportunity to waylay the little party. The leaders shuddered as they approached present day Warren. The warwhoop of the Senecas had often been heard in the French settlements of Canada, and just a few year?s previous the stalwart and ferocious braves had brought the tomahawk and scalping knife all the way to Montreal, killing over two hundred in the process. The Frenchmen shuddered at the thought of a confrontation with their most mortal enemy.
And so it was decided to eliminate the voyage up the narrow, tortuous Conewango, where the little band would be more vulnerable, than in the wider rivers further south, and head on up the Allegheny to its headwaters, thus skirting the hunting ground of their fierce adversary, to a certain degree.
From the head of the Allegheny, they could portage to the source of the Genessee River near present day Wellsville and then northward to the shores of Lake Ontario. An attack through the gorges of the Genessee was a virtual impossibility reasoned the French.
And so it is believed that the little band reached the area near what is now North Coudersport. Harassed throughout the upriver trip from Cornplanter to what is now Coudersport, the voyageurs and the priests decided that they would bury the kegs of gold, mark the site, and continue as rapidly as possible toward the Genessee if they expected to retain their hair. And so legend has it that they turned south, toward the valley now known as Borie. Near a huge rock which the Jesuits marked with a cross chiseled into its side, the now thoroughly frightened Frenchmen buried the gold. A map was made of the location, and the band headed once more back to the Allegheny and then made the perilous thirty miles over the mountains to the Genessee. Hiding by day, and traveling by night, the French made it to the Genessee and thus back to Canada where they reported to the exasperated governor that they had buried a tremendous treasure near a large rock, somewhere near the head of the Allegheny. They had marked the site with a cross, explained the Jesuits.
For years, the Senecas mentioned a rock in the Borie area that had a puzzling carving upon its face. But then the white man was known to do unusual things, even planting things that wouldn?t grow. Since the carving had some religious significance, thought the Indians, they did not disturb the rock or search for the hidden treasure, of which few were aware, until the return of the French to look for the buried loot.
It has never been found, and has become one of the lesser known legends of Potter County. While it has a ring of the improbable, it is a known fact that several historians mentioned the great rock, as did the Senecas. If true, it is one of the largest treasures to be buried in an area which can lay claim to four of the greatest caches made in other centuries. Few have searched for it.

 

[FLOYD MANN]

JamesSpade2:

I have 3 stories on Welch I can send you. I'm still looking for your Sentinel Mountain story---Any name associated with it ? Email me your home mail address & I'll mail those stories tomorrow.

FLOYD MANN
[email protected]

 

[Pistolero]

Hello Marc,
First let me say that, beings as I just found this site last night, that this is one heck of a treasure related discussion forum website. Thanks for it being there!

Now as for your question, I have an idea or suggestion. Since people are always posting or asking about treasure in this locale or that, in this state or that, it would be neat to have, perhaps within the "Treasure leads" forum, States listed in alphebetical order, and people can click on that state's name to post or ask about treasure pertaining to that particular state on that state's thread or board rather than have to scroll and hunt around for threads pertaining to their home states or a state they are curious about.
Just an idea.
Thanks again for a great site.
Pistolero/David Edelen
Author of "MORE GHOSTS AND EERIE TALES OF ALABAMA; True Tales of the Supernatural and the Unexplained!" www.publishamerica.com/books/8363

 

[Duane]

There is a lot of speculation considering Wellsville is in New York and would not have bee visited until after the journey up the Genesse. The allegheny goes on to Colesburg close to Gold all of which are still in Pennsylvania. It would be nice if the map could be obtained considering how good the jesuits were suppose to be at mapping. i could visit the area to check out any info in Borie, and i would rule out Welsville.

 

[Badger Bart]

MAPS OF THE JESUITS

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/explorers/h24-150.3-e.html
NATIONAL LIBRARY OF CANADA
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/explorers/h24-1430-e.html
BLACK ROBES AND THEIR MAPS

The above links are for the National Library of Canada, and the maps of the Black Robes, as the First Nations called the Jesuits. A very easy site to navigate, unlike our Library of Congress site. Records and journals of the French explorers etc. are also here.

 

[FLOYD MANN]

Here are a few hundred from my website:

http://www.losttreasureusa.com/StateTreasures/StateTreasures.htm

FLOYD MANN