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  1. #1366

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    Yeah, "Off-Topic"...
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    I see now there are many different viewpoints on Jefferson being a Mason since there's not a written record like there isn't on JWJ. Both lost to the past I suppose. But it's a decent analogy when talking about JWJ and JFD... To believe in Charley Bigeloe..it's the Dalton/John James believers. I can't figure out how to separate the two.

    I've been everywhere anyone could possibly think of in person and online and the local library's including the Midwest Genealogy Center...Huge Resource Library. There Is No Charley Bigeloe...Ive tried Every spelling possible of that name, nickname, other Bigeloe names that would fit that time frame and age of 34 +/- 10yrs. I'm going to try 3 more historical societies again in SWMO later this month, but I've checked them before and nothing.

    That story and name were just made up...I even read one later book where it said that Charley Bigeloe was an alias JWJ used cause the author couldn't find him either so he came to the conclusion it was JWJ's alias. Nice.

    Funny Story...I decided to search Stella Bigeloe since Stella James was married to JJ Jr and won the Turilli/Dalton Fraud cases...Thinking there could be something factual regarding Bigeloe there....That search led me back here to Tnet! LMAO!

    That was time for my Irish Coffee!

    We gotta forget about and accept the fact that Charley Bigeloe was a made up name. Unless Anything Prior To John James surfaces at some point...and I personally do not see how that would ever happen.

    What I'm doing now is putting together a list of known associates of JWJ who seemed to have disappeared or supposedly died around the time of JWJ's supposed death.

    If you guys can list who you've read about riding in that gang or were associated with it or him, that would give more avenues to search. I'm convinced L'burg VA, Nashville, Kentucky,Nebraska and Missouri along with California to a lesser amount are where this stuff will be found.

    If you think of somewhere or something else... please say so.

    Kace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kace View Post
    I see now there are many different viewpoints on Jefferson being a Mason since there's not a written record like there isn't on JWJ. Both lost to the past I suppose. But it's a decent analogy when talking about JWJ and JFD... To believe in Charley Bigeloe..it's the Dalton/John James believers. I can't figure out how to separate the two.

    I've been everywhere anyone could possibly think of in person and online and the local library's including the Midwest Genealogy Center...Huge Resource Library. There Is No Charley Bigeloe...Ive tried Every spelling possible of that name, nickname, other Bigeloe names that would fit that time frame and age of 34 +/- 10yrs. I'm going to try 3 more historical societies again in SWMO later this month, but I've checked them before and nothing.

    That story and name were just made up...I even read one later book where it said that Charley Bigeloe was an alias JWJ used cause the author couldn't find him either so he came to the conclusion it was JWJ's alias. Nice.

    Funny Story...I decided to search Stella Bigeloe since Stella James was married to JJ Jr and won the Turilli/Dalton Fraud cases...Thinking there could be something factual regarding Bigeloe there....That search led me back here to Tnet! LMAO!

    That was time for my Irish Coffee!

    We gotta forget about and accept the fact that Charley Bigeloe was a made up name. Unless Anything Prior To John James surfaces at some point...and I personally do not see how that would ever happen.

    What I'm doing now is putting together a list of known associates of JWJ who seemed to have disappeared or supposedly died around the time of JWJ's supposed death.

    If you guys can list who you've read about riding in that gang or were associated with it or him, that would give more avenues to search. I'm convinced L'burg VA, Nashville, Kentucky,Nebraska and Missouri along with California to a lesser amount are where this stuff will be found.

    If you think of somewhere or something else... please say so.

    Kace


    Sounds like a good plan, ferget Charley Bigelow and concentrate on other known associates gone missin around tha same time.

    Count me in, I'll look around some here fer ye.
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  4. #1369

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    HH! Good Luck! Have FUN! "CB"; alter name for CHARLES SIRINGO...? Dunno; have MORE Irish Coffee!
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    Jesse Woodson James lies in his disturbed grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    Jesse Woodson James lies in his disturbed grave.
    Stone Cold... Thanks for stating truth ~ on me 'ol wrinkled ~ used & soiled thread...
    ...
    ~:Crosse De Sign:~
    Last edited by Crosse De Sign; Feb 21, 2019 at 12:37 AM.
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    And I Will Dwell In The House Of The LORD Forever... King David ~

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    The mane thing I've really enjoyed,
    is the Treasure Marks/Signs to go
    along with the Treasure Legends.
    ...
    ~:Crosse:~

    Treasure Marks/Signs
    Last edited by Crosse De Sign; Feb 21, 2019 at 01:17 AM.
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    ~ Psalm 23:4,6 ~ Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death,
    I Will Fear No Evil: For THOU Art With Me; THY Rod And THY Staff They Comfort
    Me. ...Surely Goodness And Mercy Shall Follow Me All The Days Of My Life:
    And I Will Dwell In The House Of The LORD Forever... King David ~

  8. #1373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosse De Sign View Post
    The main thing I've really enjoyed,
    is the Treasure Marks/Signs to go
    along with the Treasure Legends.
    ...
    ~:Crosse:~



    Treasure Marks/Signs
    Nice Tunnel, Looks like copper is that a correct assumption? I was looking at the two signs. What else did you find?

    Regards

    LUE=Hawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUE-Hawn View Post
    Nice Tunnel, Looks like copper is that a correct assumption? I was looking at the two signs. What else did you find?

    Regards

    LUE=Hawn
    Well I'm no mineral expert, but think it's like dry moss film.
    Haven't found anythin' but a broken piece of whiskey glass,
    & an ol' shotgun shell brass...
    Thanks for your interest,
    ...
    ~:Crosse:~
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    ~ Psalm 23:4,6 ~ Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death,
    I Will Fear No Evil: For THOU Art With Me; THY Rod And THY Staff They Comfort
    Me. ...Surely Goodness And Mercy Shall Follow Me All The Days Of My Life:
    And I Will Dwell In The House Of The LORD Forever... King David ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUE-Hawn View Post
    Nice Tunnel, Looks like copper is that a correct assumption? I was looking at the two signs. What else did you find?

    Regards

    LUE=Hawn
    Only looking at "the 2 signs" ? ...
    ...

    ... ~:Crosse:~
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    ~ Psalm 23:4,6 ~ Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death,
    I Will Fear No Evil: For THOU Art With Me; THY Rod And THY Staff They Comfort
    Me. ...Surely Goodness And Mercy Shall Follow Me All The Days Of My Life:
    And I Will Dwell In The House Of The LORD Forever... King David ~

  11. #1376
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    Yes, I only saw the two on the left facing wall? Are you taking about the ones at the top of the cave?

    Regards

    LUE-Hawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUE-Hawn View Post
    Yes, I only saw the two on the left facing wall? Are you taking about the ones at the top of the cave?

    Regards

    LUE-Hawn
    Yes, well all over. Not meaning to be annoying,
    but I've looked at it from so many angles, that
    I know what all is there, more than 2 in that pic.
    Thanks, & Best to you Too...
    ...

    ... ~:Crosse:~
    Last edited by Crosse De Sign; Mar 06, 2019 at 01:05 AM.
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    ~ Psalm 23:4,6 ~ Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death,
    I Will Fear No Evil: For THOU Art With Me; THY Rod And THY Staff They Comfort
    Me. ...Surely Goodness And Mercy Shall Follow Me All The Days Of My Life:
    And I Will Dwell In The House Of The LORD Forever... King David ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosse De Sign View Post
    Yes, well all over. Not meaning to be annoying,
    but I've looked at it from so many angles, that
    I know what all is there, more than 2 in that pic.
    Thanks, & Best to you Too...
    ...


    ... ~:Crosse:~
    Very Nice, when I first saw them I thought they were crosses I did not see the lower part of the J. I would excited about it too if I was the one who found them. Good for you. Excellent find.

    Regards

    LUE-Hawn

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUE-Hawn View Post
    Very Nice, when I first saw them I thought they were crosses I did not see the lower part of the J. I would excited about it too if I was the one who found them. Good for you. Excellent find.

    Regards

    LUE-Hawn
    TY LUE
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    ~ Psalm 23:4,6 ~ Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death,
    I Will Fear No Evil: For THOU Art With Me; THY Rod And THY Staff They Comfort
    Me. ...Surely Goodness And Mercy Shall Follow Me All The Days Of My Life:
    And I Will Dwell In The House Of The LORD Forever... King David ~

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    I think Frank James lived quite well......
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