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  1. #31
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    springfield;

    We all know people can say whatever they want. KvonM's body of work speaks for itself. For my money he is largely responsible for the modern version of treasure hunting most of the people here on TN practice.

    Dobie was a folklorist who sent out into the field and gathered the legends and stories first-hand. Fish, in my opinion, portrayed himself as a professional treasure hunter but he found very little himself. His booklet certainly isn't going to help anyone find anything. There are several folks out there today who are remarkably similar to him.

    I think KvonM often moved to be close to a Big Casino. Your guess is on the money.

    Good luck to all,

    ~The Old Bookaroo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Bookaroo View Post
    I believe I've posted this before - however, I think it is worth repeating.

    This is a page from Treasure of the Valley of Secrets (Segundo, Colorado: 1971). It's a rare item (I'm asking about $250 for the one copy I'm willing to part this at this time).

    Anyway - because it is so scarce I'd like to share this sign. I think it has a remarkable similarity to the LUE Map.

    Attachment 851499

    Good luck to all,

    ~The Old Bookaroo
    Lue map , nice challenge . I agree how the carvings in the book , was a inspiration for the Lue map .
    I have a work about Lue map and I will explain soon ( maybe tomorrow ) .
    Marius

    There are many doors in and out of the mnts,but none so hidden as the ones in front of you.
    Do you possess the knowledge of the spirit to let you enter them? NP

    If your true to your heart,you will never go wrong.The truth is the truth,no matter how you look at it,and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth . It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  3. #33
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    And now , the Lue map description .

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    The Lue map , has two parts :
    The left ( first ) , which describe the location and how to use the gap signs in the right ( second ) map to find the entrance of the cave .
    The right ( second ) , which is up side down , is a map , and shows the location of the triangle ( pyramid ) and the dimension of the triangle in relation with the eye .
    All the important clues ( drawings ) are ground shapes .
    And now , the description of the first map :

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    The triangle is vertical to a mountain side and has orientation NW . This mountain , on the other side , has six peaks ( or more ) and five canyons . Under the triangle are gold bars like a wall and warning how the entrance is closed ( builted ) . The triangle is divided in three parts , and shows how to use the gap signs in the second map .
    The second map :
    This map is up side down , and must to turn it . The eye is under the real triangle ( the small in the centre ) and for that has the same orientation NW . The sawtooth arrow on the left , shows how the mountain with the peaks is to the left and up from the eye . The triangles on the top , show how we must to find a method to make a triangle , and the triangle with a circle warning how if we find a method to make a triangle , we will find the entrance of the cave in the real triangle .
    To make a triangle , you must to draw straights lines in the scheme of the map in the directions which shows and after , two lines from the corners to the top of the small ( real ) triangle . Like in this picture :

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    We see a triangle like in the first map . The centre of the eye shows the entrance . The only thing which remain is to find the location . From my investigation the entrance is few decade yards out of wilderness area . I post pictures with the eye and the real triangle , such as they can be seen in the area .

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    Last edited by markmar; Aug 29, 2013 at 01:33 PM.
    Marius

    There are many doors in and out of the mnts,but none so hidden as the ones in front of you.
    Do you possess the knowledge of the spirit to let you enter them? NP

    If your true to your heart,you will never go wrong.The truth is the truth,no matter how you look at it,and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth . It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  4. #34
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    Nobody do comments ? Never mind . Maybe you are not interested to find the location , and you want just to debate about his origin .
    When I have an egg and a chicken , I don't think , and I don't care who of these been the first in the evolution , but I eat both .
    Marius

    There are many doors in and out of the mnts,but none so hidden as the ones in front of you.
    Do you possess the knowledge of the spirit to let you enter them? NP

    If your true to your heart,you will never go wrong.The truth is the truth,no matter how you look at it,and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth . It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  5. #35
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    I was going through a bound collection of KvonM's National Prospector's Gazette; Geological Digest for the Miner and Lapidary that just sold on eBay and I found this interesting piece on the LUE:

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    This is from the December [1969] - January 1970 issue - Vol. 6, #3.

    Good luck to all,

    ~The Old Bookaroo

    2.0: I am also packing up a copy of KvonM's Encyclopedia of Buried Treasure Hunting (San Francisco: 1990). I looked in this remarkably comprehensive book - and the LUE isn't mentioned!
    Last edited by Old Bookaroo; Aug 30, 2013 at 01:02 PM.

  6. #36
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    Old Bookaroo

    IMO , the Lue is closer to the Mexican border .
    Marius

    There are many doors in and out of the mnts,but none so hidden as the ones in front of you.
    Do you possess the knowledge of the spirit to let you enter them? NP

    If your true to your heart,you will never go wrong.The truth is the truth,no matter how you look at it,and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth . It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





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    Some interesting posts here.

    Once again thanks Old bookaroo for the interesting posts. It certainly highlights one various interpretations. I gather that was all from 20th century books?

    Markmar interesting and clear interpretation of the alleged map. However one can only claim they have actually found the location when they have the treasure in their hands does it not? Otherwise all you have is an interesting theory just as interesting as many other alleged theories.

    Corp.
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  8. #38
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    CI TN:

    Yes - those references are all from the 20th Century.

    Good luck to all,

    ~The Old Bookaroo

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    In some respects looking at this alleged Map. It does seem to give a 1930's art deco type style to it?

    Perhaps that betrays 20th century origins?

    Markmar you have made some interesting observations on the symbolism so far. Have you done any in depth research on the origins of the document?

    Thanking you in advance.

    Corp
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    Quote Originally Posted by markmar View Post
    Old Bookaroo

    IMO , the Lue is closer to the Mexican border .

    Interesting ... why do you say this?
    ​Adios, amigos - it's been interesting.







  11. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corporate Investigations View Post
    In some respects looking at this alleged Map. It does seem to give a 1930's art deco type style to it?

    Perhaps that betrays 20th century origins?

    Markmar you have made some interesting observations on the symbolism so far. Have you done any in depth research on the origins of the document?

    Thanking you in advance.

    Corp
    I believe in the Nazi version .
    Marius

    There are many doors in and out of the mnts,but none so hidden as the ones in front of you.
    Do you possess the knowledge of the spirit to let you enter them? NP

    If your true to your heart,you will never go wrong.The truth is the truth,no matter how you look at it,and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth . It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  12. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Springfield View Post
    Interesting ... why do you say this?
    Because the location which I described , is near the Mexican border .
    Marius

    There are many doors in and out of the mnts,but none so hidden as the ones in front of you.
    Do you possess the knowledge of the spirit to let you enter them? NP

    If your true to your heart,you will never go wrong.The truth is the truth,no matter how you look at it,and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth . It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





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    Here's one from Google Maps. I really think we need to call Indiana Jones in on this one.

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    Oops, I mean Google Images,

  15. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanne View Post
    Here's one from Google Maps. I really think we need to call Indiana Jones in on this one.

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    This map is the same with the map which I posted before . And , I agree , Indiana Jones was the best treasure hunter .
    Marius

    There are many doors in and out of the mnts,but none so hidden as the ones in front of you.
    Do you possess the knowledge of the spirit to let you enter them? NP

    If your true to your heart,you will never go wrong.The truth is the truth,no matter how you look at it,and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth . It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





 

 
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