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    I Find Things Always Have Always Will

    Feb 2018
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
    1) Here's where it get's "interesting": a Ford Tri-Motor had the capability to carry one ton in cargo or passengers, and I didn't make the "Ford" connection to the 3rd Reich and Hitler, until the past year or so. The Ford Tri-Motor was also very efficient in needing only a short runway in high altitudes, because it had 3 motors. Hence, only 25 round trip flights would be needed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Trimotor

    Excerpt:
    "One of the major uses of the Trimotor after it was superseded as a passenger aircraft by more modern aircraft like the Boeing 247 (1933) or the Douglas DC-2 (1934), then DC-3, was the carrying of heavy freight to mining operations in jungles and mountains. The Trimotor was employed for decades in this role.[16]" Click link #16 and you'll learn the Ford Tri-motor was used by Peruvian gold miners in high altitudes.

    Why did Hitler award Henry Ford the Grand Cross of the German Eagle in 1938; before World War II broke out? Was it because he cached their gold in the U.S. on a remote relocation in the middle of nowhere, in high altitude, using a Ford Tri-Motor configured to carry the cache?

    The closest road to the property was unpaved until 1975. It's very desolate out there.

    2) I believe the pilot and "site lead" or surveyor were the only people who knew where they were. I believe they were paid to be quiet in gold. That's why I believe the pilot only provided "cryptic" information to his wife, as to the mission he executed, and the description which was passed on "2nd hand" to KvM and Hardrock Hammond, and perhaps Tom Hilton: "40 acres of gold .. a Natural Fort Knox .. two people knew where it was buried".

    I believe the pilot died an untimely death, in a plane accident in 1938, and one of the valuables he left behind to his wife was the waybill. The pilot must've told her the site was a "natural Fort Knox", and perhaps she or her son wanted a "piece of the action" from KvM or Hardrock Hammond.

    The surveyor could have been the land owner, a Nazi sympathizer or a highly paid lieutenant in the operation. The other crew members had NO IDEA where they were, those who excavated the site. It's very desolate out there.

    As Daryl Friesen has posted on other websites, he was told that Germans or Neo-Nazi's paid a pilot after the war to search for visual "cues" around the 4 corners; searching for the site. That would indicate the crew wasn't aware where they were. In addition, one can speculate that foreign immigrants were used in the work, like the coal miners in Primero. They "pretty much" had no clue where they were, or the site location relative to the rest of the U.S.

    The distances and headings are on the waybill, as I've posted.

    3) The loot didn't belong to the pilot, but I believe he was trusted to keep a secret due to his military background, he was hired because he knew how to fly in high altitudes and was somewhat famous; that's how they knew he could carry out the mission. I don't believe the pilot and surveyor knew each other, for various reasons. I believe the pilot was paid well for completing the mission, in gold! His only job was to deliver cache and crew, like today's truck driver: just drop off your load and move on to the next load.

    4) I believe the cache was moved for two possible reasons, as I've posted, 1) the owners feared FDR was targeting them and he'd confiscate their gold; since they knew FDR knew they'd done business with Hitler and were paid in gold; 2) the Rio Grande Southern railroad closed which would make the route to the site very difficult, if the site was used as a "secret" warehouse for refined inventory, 3) the owners of the Camp Bird mining company feared their warehoused gold would be confiscated and they moved it due to the Gold Act.

    Either one, it appears it was a complex and large operation, including excavations. I do believe the story "line" that a crew went out to the site and tried to find the gold, but failed, and then decided to "leave it sit" because it was still illegal to own until 1970. I do believe those who knew about moving it eventually died between 1934 and 1970, and told few people about the "caper".

    The current property owner is not wise to the whole thing; per the waybill. As I mentioned, I told the owner there might be "valuable historical artifacts" on the property. I have permission to search, but can't dig.

    I hope that answers your questions.

    Your best friend,
    Spyro

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    Hello spyro,

    Here is a simple request: Tell us the name of the suspected German sympathizer whose property it belonged to? You don't have to give the full name only the first letter and the last?

    Perhaps then you will be believed?

    Regards

    LUE-Hawn

  2. #632
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    Knight of the Round Bowl

    Feb 2014
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    Regarding the theory that the sine waves are used to plot geographical coordinates: The horizontal column or "arrow of time" is OK, i guess, the "middle" line could be equator and the above & below lines are the tropics. But counting the lines in the vertical column gives an odd number, which is not useful in determining solar time or longitude (360 degrees even number etc).

    Any thoughts on how our esteemed friends are convinced that the Equation of Time is indeed represented on the LUE Map ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryano View Post
    Regarding the theory that the sine waves are used to plot geographical coordinates: The horizontal column or "arrow of time" is OK, i guess, the "middle" line could be equator and the above & below lines are the tropics. But counting the lines in the vertical column gives an odd number, which is not useful in determining solar time or longitude (360 degrees even number etc).

    Any thoughts on how our esteemed friends are convinced that the Equation of Time is indeed represented on the LUE Map ?
    IMO , the only reference to Time in the LUE map , is at the beginning of the story : " Once upon a time .... "
    Dirt1955, sdcfia, Ryano and 1 others like this.
    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  4. #634
    pt
    Sep 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryano View Post
    Regarding the theory that the sine waves are used to plot geographical coordinates: The horizontal column or "arrow of time" is OK, i guess, the "middle" line could be equator and the above & below lines are the tropics. But counting the lines in the vertical column gives an odd number, which is not useful in determining solar time or longitude (360 degrees even number etc).

    Any thoughts on how our esteemed friends are convinced that the Equation of Time is indeed represented on the LUE Map ?
    Even if there was any truth to that alleged method of solution, the question of which prime meridian is used might complicate matters considerably. That's one of the pesky annoyances with longitude.
    "Well, yeah, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
    Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski, 1998

 

 
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