CSA Treasure(s)/Treasury...?

[Citiboy289]

GREAT "READ"... THANKS! Coffee...? They even had a "MYSTERIOUS BOX"... like in the Beale PAPERS!

THANKS YOU REBEL, I feel honored to get such a compliment from someone of your stature on the Topic !

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

THANKS YOU REBEL, I feel honored to get such a compliment from someone of your stature on the Topic !

YW! Carry ON!

 

[molonlabe12]

Im new at this and dont know much. I read that gold from Mississippi came to columbus ga and stayed at the iron bank for awhile. I live in columbus and that bank is now a coffee shop but all the vaults are still there. Just wondering if its fact or just story.

 

[ECS]

LOST YANKEE GOLD

On December 30,1862, Union Brig Gen Jeremiah C Sullivan ordered Col Cyrus L Dunham, 39th Iowa Regiment to prevent the Confederates from crossing the Tennessee River. Dunham set up camp at Dollar Hill, near Clarksburg, Tennessee, in an area of five springs.
Before going into battle, he had two Lt and one Sgt bury the payroll chest, containing $15,000 in golden eagles, 20 feet from the spring where Dunham had pitched his command tent.
The next morning Dunham's small command encountered the CSA 7th Tennessee Calvary led by CSA Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest at Parkers Crossroads(Red Mound), who gave the Yankees better than he got-Union loses:26 killed(including the three that buried the chest), 32 wounded, and 11 MIA.
Dunham sounded retreat as a hard rain began to fall, and returned to his camp at Dollar Hill, only to find the camp flooded in a sea of mud. The payroll chest was never recovered due to the mud had changed the landscape and Forrest's heated pursuit.

 

[ECS]

... I read that gold from Mississippi came to columbus ga and stayed at the iron bank for awhile. I live in columbus and that bank is now a coffee shop but all the vaults are still there. Just wondering if its fact or just story.

The Iron Bank of Columbus was managed by William H Young, who was a friend of Confederate Sec of the Treasury, Christopher G Memminger.
There are two different tales concerning the Iron Bank of Columbus.
The first claims the gold and silver from the CSA occupied US mint in New Orleans was shipped to the Iron Bank for safe keeping. On Oct 11, 1862, CSA Gen PGT Beauregard removed the gold & silver by force from Young's Iron Bank.
This story is suspect due to the fact that Memminger had the New Orleans gold & silver shipped to CSA Assayer Guirot at Dahlonega, Georgia-it was received June 1862 and crated and shipped on Oct 1,1862 to Augusta, Georgia.
It never arrived.
The second story involves James H Wilson's Raiders attack on Columbus, Georgia, April 16, 1865, 7 days after Lee's surrender. Wilson destroyed and burned anything of use to the Confederacy, and as the story goes, thought that the remaining Confederate treasury was hidden at Young's Iron Bank because of Young's friendship with Memminger.
Between April 12 and April 19, the treasury was shipped from Chester, SC to Marshall's White Hall Plantation in Abbeville, SC, and by May 3,1865 it had made its way to Chennault's Plantation in Washington, Ga, where $250,000 was stolen by armed men, and by May 24, the Union army recovered the rest.
Jefferson Davis's two treasure and baggage wagons made it to David Levy Yulee's Cottonwood Plantation in Archer, Florida, and what was carried by CSA Sec of State Judah P Benjamin, CSA Sec of War John C Breckinridge, and Davis's nephew, CSA Capt John Taylor Wood during their flight through Silver Springs/Ocala ,Florida and out of the country.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

The Iron Bank of Columbus was managed by William H Young, who was a friend of Confederate Sec of the Treasury, Christopher G Memminger.
There are two different tales concerning the Iron Bank of Columbus.
The first claims the gold and silver from the CSA occupied US mint in New Orleans was shipped to the Iron Bank for safe keeping. On Oct 11, 1862, CSA Gen PGT Beauregard removed the gold & silver by force from Young's Iron Bank.
This story is suspect due to the fact that Memminger had the New Orleans gold & silver shipped to CSA Assayer Guirot at Dahlonega, Georgia-it was received June 1862 and crated and shipped on Oct 1,1862 to Augusta, Georgia.
It never arrived.
The second story involves James H Wilson's Raiders attack on Columbus, Georgia, April 16, 1865, 7 days after Lee's surrender. Wilson destroyed and burned anything of use to the Confederacy, and as the story goes, thought that the remaining Confederate treasury was hidden at Young's Iron Bank because of Young's friendship with Memminger.
Between April 12 and April 19, the treasury was shipped from Chester, SC to Marshall's White Hall Plantation in Abbeville, SC, and by May 3,1865 it had made its way to Chennault's Plantation in Washington, Ga, where $250,000 was stolen by armed men, and by May 24, the Union army recovered the rest.
Jefferson Davis's two treasure and baggage wagons made it to David Levy Yulee's Cottonwood Plantation in Archer, Florida, and what was carried by CSA Sec of State Judah P Benjamin, CSA Sec of War John C Breckinridge, and Davis's nephew, CSA Capt John Taylor Wood during their flight through Silver Springs/Ocala ,Florida and out of the country.

GREAT info, ECS!

 

[ECS]

"STONEMAN'S CALVARY CAME..."

As with Sherman and Wilson, Union Gen George Stoneman conducted scorched earth and looting raids in Virginia and North Carolina against Southern civilians. Many caches were buried before the Yankee raiding parties came- in New Bern, the locals buried their valuables in iron cooking pots next to the North Carolina Railroad tracks where the RR bridge crossed the Neuse River. Most was recovered after the War, but cooking pots full of Confederate gold lore grew from this event.
Stoneman's Raid: Salisbury and the Yadkin River Bridge
"... but they should never taken the very best"

 

[molonlabe12]

So much great info thanks guys

 

[cw0909]

good info, more info for the stack, i want to believe these accounts
are truthful to the best of their knowledge

War of the Rebellion: Serial 103 Page 0515 PURSUIT AND CAPTURE OF JEFFERSON DAVIS.
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War of the Rebellion: Serial 103 Page 0515 PURSUIT AND CAPTURE OF JEFFERSON DAVIS. | eHISTORY

 

[jfreakofkorn]

mason tunnel(s)

the mason tunnels, page 1

Tunnels under Macon. - Topix

but this is some good reading here ( think it was posted already )

The Lost Confederate Treasure | Southern Sentinel

 

[Rebel - KGC]

mason tunnel(s)

the mason tunnels, page 1

Tunnels under Macon. - Topix

but this is some good reading here ( think it was posted already )

The Lost Confederate Treasure | Southern Sentinel

VERY good info... check out OLD Atlanta, Ga. "underground"; back to CONFEDERATE WAR!

 

[ECS]

Many different activities occurred in April 1865 at Danville, Virginia when Davis's cabinet and the Confederate treasury escaped from Richmond.
CSA Sec of State Judah P Benjamin gives CSA Major Edward Sixtus Hutter his personal copy of Vattels LAW OF NATIONS, which was used as a Confederate code book.
Then there is the story of 39 kegs of Mexican silver dollars being buried at Danville.
...and the events revolving around Confederate Naval officers, Edward Tidball and James A Semple, who courted Julia Gardiner Tyler, widow of US President John Tyler.
http//historynewsnetwork.org/article/49088

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Many different activities occurred in April 1865 at Danville, Virginia when Davis's cabinet and the Confederate treasury escaped from Richmond.
CSA Sec of State Judah P Benjamin gives CSA Major Edward Sixtus Hutter his personal copy of Vattels LAW OF NATIONS, which was used as a Confederate code book.
Then there is the story of 39 kegs of Mexican silver dollars being buried at Danville.
...and the events revolving around Confederate Naval officers, Edward Tidball and James A Semple, who courted Julia Gardiner Tyler, widow of US President John Tyler.
http//historynewsnetwork.org/article/49088

YEP! There is a good book on that; JGT was THE ROSE! For the REST of the story, "post"-CONFEDERATE WAR re. ESH; he built a HUGE house/home on RIVERmont Ave. here in Lynchburg, VIRGINIA. He started the RIVERmont Comp. to build RIVERmont Bridge over Blackwater Creek; which had a HUGE Mill (near Hollins Tunnel). "Google" Edward Sixtus Hutter for MORE info.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

THANKS, franklin! He has a CD Book on it, folks! PM him!

 

[ECS]

There was only a little over 33 kegs of Mexican Silver Dollars left in Danville. The other 7 kegs went on to Greensboro to pay General Joseph Johnston's troops at Jamestown. There were 165, 326 Mexican Silver Dollars left in Danville, Virginia.

At least one keg of Mexican silver dollars made it to Florida with Benjamin, Breckinridge, and Wood.
Confederate spy, Lola Sanchez of Palatka on the St Johns River received $500 of the Mexican silver dollars, and the rest of the keg was buried at Fort Brook on the Oklawaha River at Orange Springs.

 

[ECS]

Tufts University has the memoirs of Varina Davis, and chapter 80:JOSEPH E JOHNSTON AND THE CONFEDERATE TREASURY contains an account of what became of the treasury after it left Danville, April 1865. She also addresses the claim of CSA Gen Joseph Johnston hat Jefferson Davis "stole" a portion of the CSA Treasury.
http:/perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2001.050038%3Achapter%3D80
The memoirs also include letters and receipts from Regan, Clark, Breckinridge, Wood, and others, and recounts the events at Washington, Georgia.
THE GEORGIA HISTORICAL QUARTERLY, Vol 3 #2 (1918) "The Story of the Confederate Treasury" is another good resource:
http:/www.jstor.org/stable/405755?seq=1page_scan_tab_contents

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Tufts University has the memoirs of Varina Davis, and chapter 80:JOSEPH E JOHNSTON AND THE CONFEDERATE TREASURY contains an account of what became of the treasury after it left Danville, April 1865. She also addresses the claim of CSA Gen Joseph Johnston hat Jefferson Davis "stole" a portion of the CSA Treasury.
http:/perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2001.050038%3Achapter%3D80
The memoirs also include letters and receipts from Regan, Clark, Breckinridge, Wood, and others, and recounts the events at Washington, Georgia.
THE GEORGIA HISTORICAL QUARTERLY, Vol 3 #2 (1918) "The Story of the Confederate Treasury" is another good resource:
http:/www.jstor.org/stable/405755?seq=1page_scan_tab_contents

Varina Davis wasn't "in" her hubby's "Circle"; JD didn't steal ANY of the Treasury... he made sure that VIRGINIA got it's "piece", as the "RICHMOND STORES"; which Gen. Robert E. Lee recommended be sent to Lynchburg, Va. & "points" WEST & SOUTH. O.R. has this recommendation; AND! "RICHMOND STORES" became the "BEALE TREASURE" as indicated in PV's last book... novel/FACTION; Confederate Treasure Coverup

 

[Rebel - KGC]

AND! Maj. E. S. Hutter (CSA) was a VMI Graduate! Part of the "ELITE TEAM" of VMI alumni... POSSIBLE KGC! E.S.'s brother, Maj. Ferdinand C. Hutter (CSA PAY-MASTER) was on the train that was diverted to Lynchburg, VIRGINIA... with "RICHMOND STORES"; Lynchburg, VIRGINIA became the STATE capital for FOUR DAYS!

 

[ECS]

CONFEDERATE STEAMPUNK

Richmond dentist, Dr. R Finley Hunt developed plans for a steam powered flying machine. Hunt contacted CSA President Jefferson Davis who liked the idea of a flying machine that could bomb Union troops from the air. Davis presented the plan to CSA Gen Robert E Lee, who also thought it a great weapon of war, and it was considered for development, until other engineers claimed that the weight of the flying machine's steam engines would make it unable to lift into the air.
Confederate Flying Machine Will Rise Again at Auction | Civil War Airplanes & Aviators
Another inventor for the Confederacy was William C Powers, who invented a steam powered helicopter for CSA military use. The use of balloons for troop observation was common for both the Union and Confederacy, but both Powers and Hunt could see the advantage of self powered machines that did not depend on the wind.
Air Assault ? Confederate style? Yes, a rebel whirlybird! | To the Sound of the Guns
Elizabeth Baker, a Pinkerton Union spy reported watching the test run of a steam powered submarine in the James River, built by the TREDEGAR IRON WORKS of Richmond.
In 1864, CSA Sec of State, Judah P Benjamin commissioned William Cheeney of the Tredegar Iron Works to build a submarine, that was steam powered with a bellows/snorkel air system for use while submerged, and as Union spy Baker reported, it worked. During March,1865, Benjamin had a "secret cargo" loaded on the submarine that was christened "Come Retribution" by Varina Davis, with Mary Chestnutt, and CSA Capt John Taylor Wood in attendance.
The fate of the submarine is unknown, but French author, Jules Verne, used the idea of a self contained submarine in his "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea"(the submarine was pursued by the warship USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN in the novel), Powers' helicopter in" Robur The Conquer", and Hunt's flying machine in "Master of the World".
In Verne's Mysterious Island, Union soldiers escape Richmond's Libby Prison in a Confederate balloon, and are blown in a storm to an uncharted island inhabited by Nemo and his Nautilus submarine.

 

[ECS]

Varina Davis wasn't "in" her hubby's "Circle"; JD didn't steal ANY of the Treasury... he made sure that VIRGINIA got it's "piece", as the "RICHMOND STORES"; which Gen. Robert E. Lee recommended be sent to Lynchburg, Va. & "points" WEST & SOUTH. O.R. has this recommendation; AND! "RICHMOND STORES" became the "BEALE TREASURE" as indicated in PV's last book... novel/FACTION; Confederate Treasure Coverup

This is a great read abut after the War-the Southern viewpoint.
It covers Union Maj Gen James H Wilson's "propaganda" (a real "FACTION") account of Jefferson Davis's capture and the Confederate treasury.
It also covers Confederados fleeing to Brazil from Reconstruction.
Sons of Confederate Veterans