What is most outrageous treasure hunting legend you have ever read?

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The Most Outrageous Treasure Hunting Legend I Ever Read

On one hand:
Nine Crusaders rode into Jerusalem, and took possession
of the Temple Mount, where once supposedly stood the
unimaginable Temple Of King Solomon. With all of the
speculation, of what they may have excavated under
the ruins of Herod's Temple, kept in close secret.

Their actions and successes, suggest they found some
thing(s) of great historical, perhaps cultural and religious
significance, of wealth, to be re-hidden, and kept secret.
Then later, to the extent of laying down their lives, all
for only a well played poker hand bluff, that got their
powerful banking system up and well prospering?

The other hand:
Over two hundred years later, the pope and king
supposedly despise their power, want their wealth,
accuse them of heresy, and supposedly legally begin
their persecution, murders and property seizures to
make things right...

There were those that supposedly fled to Scotland,
to the safety afforded of their fellow Knights. There
were ships seen off of the coast of Scotland, then
they were gone... That's all pretty outrageous
also, if the words of some witnesses are
to be considered, of long, long ago,
though not very much in stone... :fish:
:cross:
 

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Yeah, kind of like that guy from a long time ago that SUPPOSEDLY walked on water, got killed, then rose from the dead. Nothing documentary to back up that story!

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Yeah, kind of like that guy from a long time ago that SUPPOSEDLY walked on water, got killed, then rose from the dead. Nothing documentary to back up that story!

Mike

Haha, I heard the holy grail is buried somewhere in Kansas...


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Yeah, kind of like that guy from a long time ago that SUPPOSEDLY walked on water, got killed, then rose from the dead. Nothing documentary to back up that story!

Mike

in those days walking on water meant walking beside the water.
so I suppose many walked on water back then.

Of course watch the Olympics, You will see many men & women skate on water.

I suppose if a moron who never heard of ice, was razed in the South,
was brought to the North & saw someone walk across a frozen pond,
They may tell stores of someone walking on water too
in which case I've walked on the water several times as a kid.

as for rising from the dead.
this was the reason Wakes were invented.
Many people rose from the dead, and because some
didn't want to wake from the dead after being buried
bells, wakes & eventually embalming was invented.

So totally believable, and nothing out of the ordinary
 

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Yeah, kind of like that guy from a long time ago that SUPPOSEDLY walked on water, got killed, then rose from the dead. Nothing documentary to back up that story!

Mike

Yeah, like all hidden or supposed secret treasures.
Though in that case, it is documented that Nero
believed something had happened and raised hell.
Then there's ancient prophesies proven to have
taken place just like they were stated, but no
that's still not documentation, in the museum.

Some question the shroud of Turin, while others say
it can fit the timeline. The evidence of the supposed
eye witnesses, passed by word of mouth, and written
on scrolls later found, maybe copied later. If someone
really found the supposed 'Holy Grail', would anyone
believe it, even if Christ had carved his name on it?
Did Jesse James tell all about his secret doings,
left for interpretation, or was that the other JJ? :laughing7:

If secrets were commonly known and believed,
would the goods stashed away be treasures anymore?
It takes a certain kind of spirit, to believe it could be,
without the proof beforehand. Then the hunting begins,
and if a treasure is not known or seen, but there's a
legend about it, does that mean it may or may not
exist? The eye of a given interpreter is a thought,
some things cannot be verified, or proven in the
natural very easily, or at all. That's why it is
still classified as a hidden treasure.

Yes, it's all pretty outrageous, and even if
someone finds a real supposedly legendary
treasure, would it be cool to tell anyone
about it, in this abominable climate?

Besides, everyone knows that JJ really buried
the 'Holy Grail' somewhere in the paradise
of Tejas, and drew a map for Kansas,
just to throw the Yankees off track... :laughing7:
 

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in those days walking on water meant walking beside the water.
so I suppose many walked on water back then......

Seriously ? This is new to me. Haven't heard this explanation before. But if so, how does it jive with the reaction of those in the boat who saw him walking out to them? They were besides themselves with fear, "thinking they'd seen a ghost", etc... Would that be the reaction of seeing someone walk *beside* water?

....You will see many men & women skate on water...

Ah yes, of course. And this frozen lake theory would also explain how they were boating on the water at the same time. Hmmm....

as for rising from the dead.
this was the reason Wakes were invented...

Ah the old "swoon" theory, eh? I guess the spear thrust into his side JUST for that sole purpose of making sure he was dead, ........ just wasn't effective?
 

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And we know where Jesus hid his treasure: "You will have treasure in Heaven" (Matthew 6:30 & 19:21, Mark 10:21, & Luke 12:33 - about the only thing the three Gospel writers agree on) ;-)
 

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Oh please, you can't be serious? If someone's dowsing rod pointed that way , well ........ then ... ALL THE MORE reason to believe in the validity of the treasure lore !

Then it's a valid time to dig,8-) and get out the compass, Spanish needle, oh,
and maybe a metal detector, that supposedly sniffs better than a foot or two... :laughing9:
Nah, that rod aint worth even following up on, even if them old timers claimed
outrageous things, about a dumb forked stick, the water was there all along,
they just dug deep enough, in the right spot... :laughing7:
 

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Seriously ? This is new to me. Haven't heard this explanation before. But if so, how does it jive with the reaction of those in the boat who saw him walking out to them? They were besides themselves with fear, "thinking they'd seen a ghost", etc... Would that be the reaction of seeing someone walk *beside* water?



Ah yes, of course. And this frozen lake theory would also explain how they were boating on the water at the same time. Hmmm....



Ah the old "swoon" theory, eh? I guess the spear thrust into his side JUST for that sole purpose of making sure he was dead, ........ just wasn't effective?

well in the first place there were no tv cameras, or cell phone footage to prove any of it.
did Gulliver really find Lilliput ? did anyone really see bigfoot ?
did someone actually dig tunnels to the ocean for booby traps ? it's still all speculation.
till absolute proof is shown, especially on anything we didn't see for ourselves.
There are allot of B.S.'s out there, add a Few Hallucinogens from Peyote and Uncooked fish etc.
and someone "claiming" they translated something properly.

sorry but even today, there are many foreign words & senences that do not translate to english very well, without imagination being used.

although most Legends are based on true Happenings, They all get perverted each time they are told or translated
 

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Many people rose from the dead, and because some
didn't want to wake from the dead after being buried
bells, wakes & eventually embalming was invented.

This is interesting, thanks for posting.

I was taught that embalming came to be out of necessity for men killed in the American Civil War - to ensure the body would make it home for visitation and burial...?


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This is interesting, thanks for posting.

I was taught that embalming came to be out of necessity for men killed in the American Civil War - to ensure the body would make it home for visitation and burial...?


~Tejaas~

Perhaps that is true :dontknow: but makes sense to me embalming also ended any risk of
a misdiagnoses of dead :laughing7: after all the American Civil War ended and
I'm pretty sure embalming is the law ?

I'm not sure if it still must be done before cremation though.
 

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well in the first place there were no tv cameras, or cell phone footage to prove any of it...

I'm betting that you and I can assemble a list of historical events (anything that happened before 1850-ish) that fits this criteria. The revolutionary war, the existence of George Washington, blah blah blah. Therefore it's all in doubt now, right ? You and I can't go on recorded witness accounts anymore, because most certainly they were having a bad dream, hallucinating, subject to language interpretation/translation issues, etc....
 

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The Civil War certainly gave it a boost in this country. But Egyptians were doing it 8,000 years ago!

The modern version of pumping fluids into the arteries to replace the blood goes back to the Revolutionary War era (in Scotland - Dr. Hunter)

The Scottish anatomist William Hunter (1718–83), however, is credited with being the first to report fully on arterial and cavity embalming as a way to preserve bodies for burial. His discovery attracted wide attention after his younger brother, John Hunter, in 1775 embalmed the body of a Mrs. Martin Van Butchell, whose will specified that her husband had control of her fortune only as long as her body remained above ground. To meet that condition, Van Butchell had her embalmed, placed her fashionably dressed body in a glass-lidded case in a sitting room, and held regular visiting hours.
embalming :: Development of modern embalming. | Encyclopedia Britannica
 

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The gold in Victorio Peak has fascinated me from the time i stumbled across the book in 7th grade, "100 tons of Gold"

As far as outrageous, 100 tons of gold is a lot of gold. 2.4 million ounces... 2,400,000 ounces. x $ 1200 = $2,880,000,000.00

Doc Noss claimed to have measured the stacks of ingots.......pretty outrageous. Great story.
 

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I'm betting that you and I can assemble a list of historical events (anything that happened before 1850-ish) that fits this criteria. The revolutionary war, the existence of George Washington, blah blah blah. Therefore it's all in doubt now, right ? You and I can't go on recorded witness accounts anymore, because most certainly they were having a bad dream, hallucinating, subject to language interpretation/translation issues, etc....

Correct ! research is needed.

as for the existence of George Washington, I'll take his existence for granted.
I believe he supposedly sat for a portrait. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lansdowne_portrait but how good was the Painter ? Did he really look like that ? or did he look more like Alfred E Neuman ? he also signed his name a few times.
However if there are stories of him preforming Hocus-Pocus,
I'm going to guess he was into prestidigitation on the side,
Or things were exaggerated.
as I don't know what he & his Cohorts were eating & smoking back then :tongue3:

I don't personally know of any Treasures with his name on them though :dontknow:
 

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Crosse brought up "the other JJ". Well I for one had never considered Jesse Jackson
burying stolen money but anything's possible I guess.
 

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.... as for the existence of George Washington, I'll take his existence for granted. I believe he supposedly sat for a portrait....

Ah, I get it now. If a portrait was made of the person or event, then we can take it for granted ? Therefore eyewitness accounts DO weigh in, as evidence of persons, places, things, right ?
 

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Ah, I get it now. If a portrait was made of the person or event, then we can take it for granted ? Therefore eyewitness accounts DO weigh in, as evidence of persons, places, things, right ?

as long as that Direct line in English can be proven beyond Doubt.
Correct :thumbsup:

example just because someone says Tutankhamun existed doesn't prove to me they got the name right. or even know what they translated he could have been a slave or pet . & the tomb an alien named fred , or "Tutankhamun" could have been the word "Fiction" translarted wrong

Translations of weird lost languages to English break that line.

as for portrait's if they were sat for, in existence,
and proven beyond doubt sat for , Yes.
 

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as long as that Direct line in English can be proven beyond Doubt.
Correct :thumbsup:....

ok then, now that we've accepted eye-witness pre-photography evidence: Then what would be acceptable evidence for you (ie.: "beyond a doubt") to establish the reality of those things in post #24 of yours? And are you prepared to apply that same standard to other things we take for granted in history ?
 

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ok then, now that we've accepted eye-witness pre-photography evidence: Then what would be acceptable evidence for you (ie.: "beyond a doubt") to establish the reality of those things in post #24 of yours? And are you prepared to apply that same standard to other things we take for granted in history ?

I'll take for granted things that are physically possible to a point.
The point ends as soon as Ghosts, hocus pocus & impossible feats are added in
without the acceptance that more likely someone lied or imagined things.

when someone speaks of ghosts , invisible creatures or whatever

the Fairy Tales of Hans Christian Andersen among others come to mind.

in some cases I can believe in aliens, if these possible aliens are solid creatures.
but the moment they can disappear in thin air, Or watch everyone at once & know their names.
Santa Comes to mind :laughing7:
at least Santa can be seen in almost every store & laughed at once a year :laughing7:
 

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