Dent's run: The possibilities.

[b3y0nd3r]

I am discussing the news story here, nothing else. Please stick to the news story! It is no use discussing what should of been done nor if there is a treasure or not.

Looking at the story, it seems we have quite an issue here. The FBI came in, dug until they reached a certain level of depth, and then quit only to come back later with an army and dig up what appears to be what was buried there. Then showed the original finders the empty hole.

What the original finders of the treasure have is eye witness accounts. When this goes to court, and it will, they can subpoena them. Hopefully, they have photographic evidence as well to back up their claims.

IF I were the original finders, I would be gathering evidence and eye witness testimonies and preparing for trial while everything is fresh.

What the FBI has is unknown however, you can speculate they have some sort of evidence to back up their story.

Who owns the gold? Regardless of who originally owned it, there are statue of limitations as well as other legal points to be milled over. If there were gold there, it was located on state land. The FBI is a federal agency and unless they had legal authority from the state, what they did was illegal.

What now? It is a waiting game. IF I were one of the original finders, I would bring swift legal action BEFORE everything gets muddied up.

 

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[franklin]

What stopped Dennis and his crew from staying there at the dig site or along the road into that hollow and watch for themselves what was going on. Others words after it happens is no good. There is no proof of a treasure existing how can they prove that a treasure was stolen. It is only for the news and hopes of a Television Reality Show that drives these treasure hunters. I challenged them on their Facebook page to show any treasures they have found---------They wiped out their own page. Sad but there never was any gold at Dent's Run, PA>

 

[b3y0nd3r]

What stopped Dennis and his crew from staying there at the dig site or along the road into that hollow and watch for themselves what was going on. Others words after it happens is no good. There is no proof of a treasure existing how can they prove that a treasure was stolen. It is only for the news and hopes of a Television Reality Show that drives these treasure hunters. I challenged them on their Facebook page to show any treasures they have found---------They wiped out their own page. Sad but there never was any gold at Dent's Run, PA>

Those are moot points. If this goes to court, of the agents that participated, under oath and on the stand, they would have to be truthful or face perjury. Whomever the original finders spoke with at the FBI would be brought to trial, possibly indited for fraudulent activity.

The burden of proof is on the accuser. That is why eyewitness testimony, photos etc will be import to the case.

It doesn't matter at this stage if there was or wasn't treasure. There was the appearance of a large excavation AND movement. The FBI will need to account for their activities and expenditures.

 

[franklin]

Those are moot points. If this goes to court, of the agents that participated, under oath and on the stand, they would have to be truthful or face perjury. Whomever the original finders spoke with at the FBI would be brought to trial, possibly indited for fraudulent activity.

The burden of proof is on the accuser. That is why eyewitness testimony, photos etc will be import to the case.

It doesn't matter at this stage if there was or wasn't treasure. There was the appearance of a large excavation AND movement. The FBI will need to account for their activities and expenditures.

Maybe moot points but the FBI said there was no treasure found. As if it can be proven there was any treasure at Dent's Run is something that has to be proven. This is never going to court. Finderskeepers can not verify there was ever a treasure at Dent's Run. Fantasy Land. As for instruments saying there is precious or non-ferrous metals below ground-------I have never seen any instruments that can go any deeper than a coin metal detector that can do this. What is the brand I would like to buy one.

 

[Doubter in MD]

I may have missed it, but was any specific person from the FBI named in the article? You know, as a spokesperson?

In other words, were ANY of the points discussed in the article provided by the FBI? Did anyone from the FBI even confirm, or even deny any of the claims put forth in this story?? I'll read it again but I don't think the author ever spoke to anyone at the FBI.

I'm not sure, but I think the author just rehashed what he was told by the treasure hunters. I emailed the author to get some clarification on that. If he responds I'll post here.

 

[Nitric]

Why was the FBI even there? What evidence did they have to send in the manpower to look? This whole things sounds strange!! Treasure or not...What is the FBI doing? And why?

 

[b3y0nd3r]

Why was the FBI even there? What evidence did they have to send in the manpower to look? This whole things sounds strange!! Treasure or not...What is the FBI doing? And why?

Exactly! You nailed it! If the accounts of the equipment and manpower are correct, they would need to explain themselves. The hours logged is huge because, it would show WHEN they were there at the site.

 

[Nitric]

Thanks for the encourgment maybe you need a vacation instead of me. I only ask questions that should be asked. I do not dwell on he said she said. Where are the facts of any treasure?

I have no idea, I just saw about this treasure here in the threads today. But could it be that evidence is being held? Why would you release evidence until treasure is in hand. They may have it, I wouldn't release any of it either, especially now. Maybe that will come out later. Who knows! I mean why put out anything until it's settled. There must have been something or the FBI sure wouldn't have gotten involved? Who knows..

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

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[Dirt1955]

The FBI does not dig for treasure. Now the Treasury Department, the agency responsible for the coin of the realm, that's another matter altogether. A FOIA request to the Treasury Dept. might get an interesting response.

 

[autofull]

i do not think we will ever know what actually went on. the g does not reveal its intentions or revelations to the public. im from pa and only heard about this item last year. i kinda feel left out on my own turf. i gotta read even more local history i guess.

 

[franklin]

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If FK is still posting I wish you would kindly answer my questions are some replies you made to me about the Dent's Run Gold on the Pennsylvania Treasure Thread on this forum.

 

[Doubter in MD]

For what it's worth, the only quote I can find that any of the articles has attributed directly to the FBI is:

"Public Affairs Specialist for the FBI Carrie Adamowski could only confirm that "FBI agents were conducting court-authorized law enforcement activity."".


I'm not sure where the rest of the FBI attributed information came from but it does not appear to have come through official Bureau channels. If there is a news article with actual quotes from the FBI stating that they were digging the Dent's Run site looking for for gold, I'd love to read them.

 

[b3y0nd3r]

]i do not think we will ever know what actually went on.[/B] the g does not reveal its intentions or revelations to the public. im from pa and only heard about this item last year. i kinda feel left out on my own turf. i gotta read even more local history i guess.

If true, there were a lot of agents there. People like to talk and it isn't too far a stretch to say that one of them will spill the beans.

 

[Ryano]

I'll be at an FBI district office (not in PA) over the next few weeks (Im providing computer services to LEOs). I'll see if there's any off-the-record water cooler talk about what happened.

 

[South Sea mariner]

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