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  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    wow!
    can only observe
    would bet no gold in quantity

    Bill
    If he had brought gold with him it would of been confiscated. Yet looking past that, looking his in come for 1940 was 2000 that would equate very roughly to about 60 ounces. The alleged 3 million dollars divided by 35 dollars per ounce the price of gold at the time equals 85714 ounces roughly at 1200 dollars for example. Todays value would be worth 102856800. 00 There is just no evidence to confirm any gold arrived back in United States.

    The following story claims the whole story a hoax?

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    President of Panama Juan Demóstenes Arosemena Barreati appeared to be fairly liberal. So in short I am inclined towards the story being a hoax?

    But you can see it could easy lay the ground work for other such stories of natives find gold bars connected with these lost mines?

    Kanacki
    Last edited by KANACKI; May 20, 2019 at 09:09 PM.
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  2. #32

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    not in Long Beach as a multi-millionaire, lived there
    dead link ?

    Bill

  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    all the characteristics of a tall tale
    wonder who/why the promotion ?

    Bill
    Good question. There seems there was never a gold mine or treasure hunting proposal for investors. Maybe they did find some thing and Panamanian government strong armed control killed the french man, Hill disappeared either dead or to protect his ass, And Thorpe publicly denied it existence to save his own skin?

    After all hes not in gringo land. Would'nt be the first time such things have happened. However we can only make conjecture. However interesting the yarn is.

    Kanacki
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  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    not in Long Beach as a multi-millionaire, lived there
    dead link ?

    Bill
    He lived as lodger in long beach and was working for chemical company. So for me that says plenty that no gold came to United states at least.

    Kanacki
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  5. #35

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    nice closure Kanacki

    and the bars from the indigenous ?

    Bill
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    Hello BillA

    I cannot comment on those later claims after WW2. I just do not have enough information to make a comment either way. Although I heard stories I could not remember where? Its hard to know a ghost of a story morphs into another version. This happens with many stories over time they take on a life of their own.

    Kanacki

  7. #37

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    Kanacki

    I will think on it, I may even remember.

    Bill

  8. #38

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    Hi Kanacki,

    4 hours to remember, then 2 hours to find; and it was on this site. duh
    Partners Fall out Over 80 Gold Bars found in 1937 Panama

    Starts with the same tale you just discredited, but has more references I could not follow from here. Will try again.

    Bill
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  9. #39

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    Hello BillA

    Thanks for the link. I think I read that one also before but forgotten. It might be interesting what we can find out about the two other partners in this alleged story.

    Kanacki
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    Just on point of aircraft flying out in 1937. The local airport was hacked out of jungle in 1941. Before that nothing existed. Near the city of David. So that part of the story is unlikely.

    Kanacki
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    Here is a 1859 Newspaper Article below that mentions gold found at Panama and the old Estrella mine and all the native tombs being looted for gold. There is some interesting points to be taken from this article with what was being said in 1859.

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    Apparently in 1859 there was a bit of a free for all looting the thousands of Tombs even the local natives got into as well as foreigners.

    Here is pictures of some of looted items that eventually ended up in museums around the world. One thing this shows the local native Indian culture had a long history of metal working before Spanish occupation and after. As it has been claimed some artifacts was of horses and introduced animals.

    enjoy...feast for the eyes.

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    Kanacki
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    Its easy to drool over such artifacts as they seem so huge yet the next picture puts them into better perspective.

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    Makes you wonder how much was melted down?

    Kanacki
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  13. #43

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    Hi Kanacki

    The lost wax casting method was apparently developed in Columbia and over many centuries moved north through Central America and into Mexico, but not into North America. Areas that had an abundance of gold in their rivers had also an abundance of gold in their graves. Worth noting is the shift from green jade/jadite to yellow gold with the advent of gold working/casting.

    There is a LOT of 'archaeological' gold around.

    Nice photos, and in talking with old huaceros the stories are even more amazing.

    Bill
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  14. #44

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    Kanacki

    Used to be a group here making fake items, treating them, and selling them in NY. Of course they used a fair amount of copper, but so did the locals depending on the source.

    I have heard of a pechara (breastplate, thin round embossed) over 40 cm in diameter.

    Bill
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  15. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by KANACKI View Post
    Its easy to drool over such artifacts as they seem so huge yet the next picture puts them into better perspective.

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    Makes you wonder how much was melted down?

    Kanacki
    no one will ever top the Spaniards for the gold smelting of artifacts

    Bill
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