The Lue Map and the Nazi Connection

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Let's face it. All LUE allegations come from treasure writers, either seasoned professionals or rank amateurs. There are no names, dates, places, documents or other facts to verify or even consider - only gossip. All that persists is that cartoon map - the one with a thousand solutions, depending upon your imagination.
Only the names and facts have been changed to protect the innocent. :laughing7:
 

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After waiting for the submarine to return, Otto let Tonny know that the information could be passed on.
And the storm broke. It was the most risky moment for him in this whole undertaking, but the calculation was correct. Hitler was furious.
- How could this happen? Shouted Hitler, -How did the enemy learn about our plans? -All of you, he looked around all those present, you will be responsible for the failure personally! Severe punishment awaits you all!
- My Fuhrer, this could not be a leak from my department, as well as from the inner circle of those involved, Otto said, risking interrupting the raging Hitler. Hitler stared at him with an angry, prickly look. -Explain, through clenched teeth, said the Fuhrer. “If that were so, then our man, who is directly involved in all the work on the spot, would have already been arrested and the gold would have already been in the hands of the Americans,” And this did not happen, Otto answered. - I believe that the information could have leaked only from the department of the Reich Minister for Economic Affairs, since he has civilians who are not subject to a more thorough check by the Gestapo. Hitler continued to drill Otto with a glance, then his gaze changed and he turned to walk to his table. Without turning, he said - If the gold gets to the enemy, I will personally attend your execution of Otto, Hitler said and added - Urgently evacuate the gold! - All right, you can go to work for now. All those present stood up, they were drenched in cold sweat and threw up their hands, saying in greeting - "Heil Hitler", they silently left the office
In the sent envelope for the agent "humorist", there was only one small sheet, it was a map. In the radiogram he sent for this agent, there was an instruction not to open the envelope, it should have been handed over to the person who arrived for him, who would be dressed in a postman's uniform, under the guise of delivering an urgent telegram, and he would give a conditional password. The envelope should be passed with the following words, - Here is the exact indication of the storage location, I will join you later. Then, politely say goodbye to him.
For the fact that one of his best agents would do everything unquestioningly and accurately, Otto had no doubts. This person knows how to keep his mouth shut and never asks unnecessary questions. Open the envelope, he won't even think.
The people who arrived for the cargo of gold were instructed in advance by Otto, not by him personally, of course, but by his deputy - (who supposedly worked out all the details of the operation on the spot and had "his" agents there. In fact, Otto manipulated him, using what they say "in the blind") - the instructions indicated how to contact the person who would indicate the place of the cargo and organize the evacuation.
A postman rode up to the house on a bicycle, he stopped, straightening his bag and uniform cap, and went to the front door. He was watched by one person sitting in a car. He had been following this house for quite some time. Seeing how the postman left the house and got on the bike, left, the man opened the car door.
There was a knock on the door again, the "humorist" with the words - Well, what else is there .., opened the door.
A well-dressed gentleman stood on the threshold with a broad smile.
Postman on a bicycle, having reached the nearest gas station, entered the toilet. Having changed into clothes prepared in advance, which was in the mail bag
Then, prudently flushing the toilet, he left the toilet room. At the gas station, there was a pre-parked car, he got into it and drove off.
- What is this ****ing drawing? - What did you bring us? -Where the devil take the coordinates of the cargo? exclaimed one of those gathered, in the safe house, addressing the one who had just arrived and handed over the envelope. It looks like he was the eldest of them.
-From where do I know, I just followed the instructions. And he told about the meeting with the agent and what he told him.
- May I have a look? stretching out his hand to the drawing, one of the participants asked. Then he took the map and began to examine it carefully. Finally putting the drawing aside, he said - "It seems someone is trying to cheat us, and it looks like this someone is playing a double game. Perhaps we, as they say, are under the hood of the American special service! It is urgently necessary to interrogate this ******* who gave us this linden, to pull his whole soul out of him but find out where he hid the load!
To be continued.
 

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There is not much left, thank God. I’m already bored of this occupation with composing, after all, I warned that a complete layman in this matter. By the way, I always had bad grades for essay at school. But since the beginning it is necessary to bring the matter to the end. Now everything will be more crumpled, sorry, I want to finish faster.
And so we will continue.
"-And the guy was a humorist," the guest suddenly thought.
Unhappy and died while laughing.
After every anecdote he himself told, he began to laugh contagiously.
For the first time in his many years of work, he suddenly felt regret.
"YES .. getting old, getting sentimental,"
-It looks like it's time for me to retire.
He went up to the body of the owner, and touched the carotid artery with two fingers. Finally convinced of death, he carefully looked around the room. Going around everything, he took the cups from the table and put them in the cupboard, after washing them and thoroughly wiping all the places where he could leave prints, he called by phone. -Hello .. how can I help you sir? the operator answered in a pleasant female voice. Help, very strong chest pain, I'm scared. After answering the operator's questions,
while calling himself the name of the owner, and giving the address, he hung up. -It's time to leave, he again looked at the owner of the house. -Yes .. it's time for me to tie up with this profession, it's time to retire, he repeated leaving the house.
He already, on his personal account, has accumulated a rather round amount, and the money that Otto paid him is already quite enough to buy a small house overlooking the sea, somewhere on the Cote d'Azur.
Yes, this mysterious guest was agent Phoenix.
He was an expert of the highest class, dealing with extraordinary issues, and yes, he was a hired killer.
According to official reports, he no longer existed, it was believed that he died in a fire, during the storming of his house, when the police went on his trail.
During the assault on his house, a bullet allegedly hit the gas cylinder while coffee was brewing on the stove. And the burnt body, which was later discovered by the police, in fact, belonged to another person, his gardener, who just stopped by shortly before to receive a salary. Phoenix, during the assault, using a secret door, left, having previously shot at the gas cylinder.
Already getting into the car, which stood at some distance from the house, Phoenix saw a taxi drive up to the house and three people got out of it.
When the taxi left, the three of them looked around carefully and headed for the front door. Phoenix was no longer interested in this, he started the engine.
- What are you poking around there? One of those who approached asked, referring to a friend who was trying to open the door with a master key. -A second, he answered, and silently opened the door.
Entering the apartment, they found the owner in one of the rooms. One glance was enough to understand that he was dead.
-So ..., wow ..., surprise ... it turns out. Flip the whole house. We need to find at least something to help find gold. The senior of the group ordered.
But he was interrupted by the distant sound of an approaching siren. - Looks like the police, chief. It looks like it's time for us to leave here and as soon as possible ..
Already at a decent distance from the house, they saw that a fire engine was driving up to the house, and people in medical coats came out of it. -We'll wait a bit, we need to clarify something. The senior of the group said. After a while, a small group of onlookers formed around the house, they joined her.
Waiting until the stretcher with the body was carried out, one of the group of people asked the doctor - What happened? The doctor replied, “It looks like he died of a heart attack, which, incidentally, is not surprising in his age and given his weight.
In the evening of the same day, a radiogram was sent in which there was a detailed report to the center. The answer was wait.
The next day, they visited this house again, turning everything there from top to bottom and found nothing. Then they visited the morgue and presented themselves as the relatives of the deceased, found out the final diagnosis that led to death. It was a hundred percent heart attack - "from an overabundance of feelings" as the pathologist joked, "- He died strangely enough with a smile," he added. Returning to the safe house, for the rest of the day and evening, they sat studying the map, making many assumptions. -If we assume that this card is not a linden,full bullshit then there must be a key to decrypt it. And he, no, was summed up by the senior of the group, finally giving up this venture.
 

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I’m not familiar with the word “linden” used for anything other than a species of tree. What’s the meaning here ?
 

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See if you can work this into your story and/or map
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I’m not familiar with the word “linden” used for anything other than a species of tree. What’s the meaning here ?

I'm sorry dear Ryano. I didn't take into account that this slang will be incomprehensible to your audience. - "LIPA" is a fake, there is still such a thing - "fake documents", we have them from the word - whip up. To mold from plasticine.
 

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- By the way, under what pseudonym did we have this late merry fellow? “Looks like he had some Asian name, not Xiong, not Leung. Turning to the elder, asked Kurt (postman). “Looks like Liu, yes, definitely Liu,” replied Gunther, the team leader. - Why are you asking this? - I just thought, when drawing up the report on arrival, we still need to attach this ... drawing, map, he corrected himself. After all, it must be indicated somehow in the document. Well, that means there will be a map, Liu, - he summed up.
Do not be surprised that the agent "Comedian" suddenly appears as "Liu". The fact is that in the development of Otto, he was always under the pseudonym "Comedian", but when entering him into this operation, Otto changed his code name deliberately, for that he had special plans.
In the evening of the same day, at the next communication session, they reported on the results of the investigation and received an order to return.
- What the hell is going on! The Fuhrer was raging again. -One failure after another. -What do you say in your defense Gruppenfuehrer, he turned to Otto.
-My Fuehrer. Otto was completely calm, not a muscle in his face quivered.
Hitler again caught himself thinking: - It looks like this guy, I'm starting to like him, he was not a sycophant, always collected and reasonable, and besides, not a coward!
Otto continued, -In any development of a plan, it is impossible to take into account everything, and it often happens that in a carefully planned operation, "His Majesty -" Chance, unforeseen circumstances "can interfere and disrupt all plans.
- But whatever it was, the main task of my department was to ensure the secrecy of the operation for the delivery of cargo and its placement in place, as well as the preparatory part for launching the entire machine of destabilizing the economy. And we coped with this task.
- Yes .. with secrecy you seem to have overdone it, my dear Otto. It turns out now that we ourselves do not know where the gold is hidden? - I never thought that I would say so ... - But it seems like for the first time, super secrecy is also sometimes superfluous, and it has two sides of the coin, it turns out we outsmarted ourselves?...The question was rhetorical. -Yes, and also, do you think Otto, there is a risk that the Americans will still get this gold? - I don’t think, my Fuhrer, even if they accidentally stumble upon the storage, they will be in for an unpleasant surprise. The vault is well protected, my Fuhrer, it is mined and the secret to safely entering it is very complex. Worked on the mechanisms, our friend Skarzeny.
-Get back your people. The Fuehrer ordered. - Well, we'll wait for their return. Yes, it seems they were talking about some strange card, upon arrival, give it to our encryptors, let them figure it out, Hitler added.
 

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After the return of the group that was supposed to evacuate the cargo. The best specialists were never able to decipher the map, and later it was lost in the archives (but not forever). Otto skillfully took advantage of Hitler's favor and eliminated all unnecessary in this game. Our hero's calculation was correct. He rightly believed that Hitler had already dreamed that soon "-the whole world will be at his feet." And in that case, what does he need a few miserable tons of gold? And indeed, this story was later forgotten by him. He was fully occupied with "His own struggle", unleashing the Second World War.
Later, he will deliver his famous speech.
Hitler's speech at a meeting with the Wehrmacht command on August 22, 1939
"-I brought you together in order to outline the political situation for you, so that you get an idea of ​​the individual elements on which my decision to act is based, and thereby strengthen your confidence.
Then we will discuss the military details.
It became clear to me that sooner or later a clash with Poland must take place. I made a decision back in the spring, but thought that first in the coming years I would have to oppose the West, and only then only - against the East. But the sequence of actions defies definition in advance. You cannot turn a blind eye to a threatening situation.

At first, I wanted to establish an acceptable relationship with Poland, so that, first of all, to lead the fight against the West. However, this plan, attractive to me, turned out to be impracticable, since significant circumstances changed "
How it all began.

“Hey man, are you all right?” I opened my eyes. Some viscous fog before my eyes, tried to raise my hand, but she, like a log, slipped over my body and fell onto a bench on which, for some reason, I was lying. — Yes, thanks, everything is in order, I tried to say, but it turned out only to move my lips silently. -What the hell. At the first moment it seemed to me that I was dreaming of this strangely dressed woman, middle-aged, with brightly painted lips and immense forms.

The day before.

Morning, 6.45

Morning coffee and the first cigarette is a thrill, (they always brought me to my senses after sleep) and now I quickly entered my usual rhythm.

There is still time before work, you can write some post.

-So, nutes (we’ll try frutis), I mentally added, idiotic advertisements, there’s simply nowhere to go from them, where is my laptop?

Hello dear reader!

I suggest you, a little trip, how about time travel? -Do you agree? -I see you do not mind. And we will go to the recent past.

I know that very many would like in their life a little adventure.

And if it is connected with time travel then all the more! And if we assume that time travel is still possible. Just take and cast aside all prejudices and agree with this idea, then everyone would probably want to take advantage of this. Someone, for example, just out of curiosity, who, with the aim of changing something in their past, or to find out some secret, and even dozens of reasons. For some reason, very few people who would be completely happy with their fate.

Let’s imagine with you that we have such an opportunity. What does that require? That’s right, the so-called time travel machine or “Chronomobile”. By the way, I’ve just had one “piano in the bushes” lying around. But to see it, you need to turn on your imagination.

So, close your eyes and try to distance yourself from extraneous thoughts, and all external stimuli. Listen for the silence within yourself. If you succeeded, then you can easily, in your imagination, see this “Chronomobile”. It should be noted that for everyone, he looks natural in his own way, perhaps even very unusual. And so you tuned in, look!

Here he is, standing in front of you!

See what your chronomobile is like?

I myself am surprised every time by its forms.

So, you stand in front of him, and for some time examine him, forms, design details, something like lightnings, flash, swirls of matter in his circle. Noticing the contour of the door glowing with neon light, you carefully approach.

“forward to adventure.”

Together with you, we are approaching the luminous contour of the door. Suddenly, without a sound, she opens.

in the opened doorway, in the twilight of the cockpit, the monitor screens pulsate with ultramarine glow. On one of them, today’s date is clearly visible, Tuesday 17.12. 2019 below are highlighted in yellow — hours and minutes, flipping through green seconds and finally red, a millisecond run is visible.

(a calendar or perhaps it’s just such a clock, I thought suddenly).

-I’ll ask you on board, I invite, with a broad gesture, pointing towards the doorway.

We are entering the cabin. Comfortable leather chairs in two rows, one chair, separate from the rest, next to it are the control panel and a number of monitors — a chair for the navigator.

“-I’m asking to sit down, the doors are closing,” a pleasant female voice sounded.

We all sit in comfortable chairs. The same nice voice, continues to give commands.

“-Enter the date.”

I’m trying to understand the control devices, it’s all simple, here are two circuits, one is clear time-set, digital time values, and the second comes out-spatial, here the coordinate axes, (realizing the principle of operation) I pronounce mentally, ready.

-Enter the coordinates.

I enter, in a timeline, a date. In spatial, I enter the coordinates.

A slight vibration, the light in the cockpit fades, the sound of the metronome is clearly audible, like a heartbeat, I thought. Eyes shut by themselves. The condition is as if you are sitting in a barber’s chair with your eyes closed.

The darkness, it seems that I, somewhere swiftly, fail, -What happens..

“I try not to make a single sound — quietly, while my wife Lenka is sleeping, I make my way to the balcony to commit a little sin, smoke — since I recently quit smoking — at least my wife thinks so.

-Yelin, you fool! Yelin, this is my last name. From surprise, I dropped a pack of cigarettes from my hands. I turn quickly, and try to get up so as to close -, a pack of cigarettes, from my wife’s field of vision. But in vain. Lenka saw everything, she suddenly swings, and hits me with a rolling pin on my head, damn it hurts. The head is like a bell.

Boom… , boom… , boom. It rings in my head.

From anger, I kick the ill-fated pack of cigarettes, a “traitor”, and abruptly wake up from the pain in the big toe, right leg.

(in a dream, I kicked with all my strength the metal control rack of the car)


In addition, the head buzzed, as if as if I, on the eve, got pretty drunk on my.

But this sound turned out to be just the striking of the clock (chimes) symbolically meaning the completion of the process of moving in time. On the control panel, the date digits and the positioning designation pulsed. Year 1938, June 12. Location of coordinates, Reich Chancellery of Hitler.

We suddenly found ourselves in a huge room, it was framed by tall columns of dark gray marble and covered with the same gray granite slabs. Outstretched eagles with a swastika in their paws, a smooth portico hanging over the columns, the frozen figures of sentries in gray-green helmets - all this produced some ominous impression. Two tall, blond SS men, in black uniforms with skulls on their caps, stood at the entrance of the tall bronze doors to the study. We enter Hitler's office - a huge room that looked more like a banquet hall than an office. The walls were decorated with giant tapestries. The central part was covered with a thick carpet. To the right of the entrance was like a living room - a low table, a sofa, several armchairs. there was a huge polished desk. In the corner, a large globe was fixed on a massive ebony stand, and a large globe was fixed on a massive ebony stand in the corner.
Hitler sat at his desk, and in this huge room, his small figure in uniform, greenish-mouse color, was barely visible. The sleeve of his jacket was wrapped in a red armband with a black swastika in a circular opening. There was an iron cross on his chest. Before him stood an officer with the rank of Obergruppenfuehrer .. We hear what they are talking about.
“Dear Otto, I want to give you this,” he pointed to a sheet of document. "- Let this be the basis for developing the plan."
I wonder what they are about? ......
This could be the beginning of this story. But this is a completely different genre and a different story. And it seems I have already changed my mind about writing.

I know the further fate of our hero, but I will not describe here. I can only say that he himself originally drew two, almost identical drawings of this card. And, the fact that this map was exactly, with the real coordinates of the place.He deliberately provided this card for review, kind of - he made a challenge, "threw down the glove" - Try to guess! And yes, in this mysterious map called "Liu", indeed, the name of the author is indicated, a kind of signature. He was not at all afraid that it would be deciphered, because he believed, -To decipher it, you need to be (become) Otto. But if such a person is still found .., then he will be worthy of it. In intelligence, there are two categories of class, the first is the ability to present the enemy with disinformation so that he believes that it is true. The second, which very few people could master (our Otto owned it completely), is the ability to give out true information so that the enemy would believe that they are trying to foist misinformation on them. I can tell a lot about the map. First, the card has only one decryption option. And there is no place, speculation and assumptions in it. The location is perfect and definitely indicates only one location. And to understand this, you need to know the key. And in order to prove to all doubters, you need to fully reveal all the cards, and this can be done only in the presence of officials, since the place is mined, and such things must be done with the permission of the authorities.
Finally, that's all. Best regards to the reader, Sergey.
 

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Ok, first you show up with the map in question? Then you ask to see who is connected with the story! Then you say that it’s real and you can decipher the map, but it’s dangerous to look for it! Then you tell a complete war story in reference to the gold, which could play out as a movie in Germany. Unless someone finds the gold in the US with your help which would be the twist in making it as US movie. If you are a historian an are just telling a true story, for history sake, which may contain lost historic information! Then, I understand! But when the day is over, here on treasurenet.com, where’s he location of the gold! Some will, others won’t look for it, but the main point is to find it. So, can you decipher the map in question?
 

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Let's face it. All LUE allegations come from treasure writers, either seasoned professionals or rank amateurs. There are no names, dates, places, documents or other facts to verify or even consider - only gossip. All that persists is that cartoon map - the one with a thousand solutions, depending upon your imagination.

As a researcher, I have looked into all of the claimed LUE connections; IAYAYAM key, Robert O Burch supposed book/pamplet, science/math book where LUE diagram supposedly appears on inside cover, FBI reports and NAZI Mexico submarine theories and many other theories. I have conversed with several LUE hunters including Randy Bradford. Not one lead has ever panned out. I am in complete agreement with SDCFIA. Until someone produces factual documents supporting a NAZI connection, this particular spin goes in the fabrication pile along with templar treasure connections in the southwestern US.
 

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Perhaps the American pro-Nazi supporter owned much land that covered 4 states in the "corner"; thus, where the 4-Corners Monument is... dunno.
 

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AND! Hitler HATED Free-Masons, ordered them executed; in Germany, the members of the Lodges started wearing the BLUE FLOWER as their lapel pin... TODAY, some of us wore the BLUE FLOWER lapel pin to honor our German Brothers.
 

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Ok, first you show up with the map in question? Then you ask to see who is connected with the story! Then you say that it’s real and you can decipher the map, but it’s dangerous to look for it! Then you tell a complete war story in reference to the gold, which could play out as a movie in Germany. Unless someone finds the gold in the US with your help which would be the twist in making it as US movie. If you are a historian an are just telling a true story, for history sake, which may contain lost historic information! Then, I understand! But when the day is over, here on treasurenet.com, where’s he location of the gold! Some will, others won’t look for it, but the main point is to find it. So, can you decipher the map in question?

Dear Ramiro valdez, I deciphered it, I just repeat that I will provide the evidence and the transcript itself only to US officials.
 

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I suddenly thought ... if not for Otto, with his notorious map, then how could the course of the Second World War have turned, who knows? It seems now that the world is on the verge of the last war in human history. - "Will this gold wait for its Otto, or will it disappear forever, with the whole world?"
 

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