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  1. #1

    Aug 2007
    Western New Mexico
    84

    Church Sign

    I hope you can see this sign. I found this along with a number of others while doing some research on the lost mine called "The Spanish Queen in New Mexico.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Church Sign-scan0003.jpg  

  2. #2
    ca
    May 2007
    Canada
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    Re: Church Sign

    Bell?

  3. #3
    us
    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
    Tesoro Bandido II and DeLeon. also a Detector Pro Headhunter Diver, and a Garrett BFO called The Hunter. Just added a Garrett Ace 250.
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    Re: Church Sign

    A cross stuck on a mound or large boulder.
    " 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter

  4. #4
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
    BS
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    Re: Church Sign

    Typical Hispanic christian cross on pedestal.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

  5. #5
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
    5,871
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    Re: Church Sign

    I concur Steve,
    Cross on a mound.
    Need to have more than one sign to have a serious chase.
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  6. #6
    us
    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
    Tesoro Bandido II and DeLeon. also a Detector Pro Headhunter Diver, and a Garrett BFO called The Hunter. Just added a Garrett Ace 250.
    3,484
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Church Sign

    Quote Originally Posted by Shortstack
    A cross stuck on a mound or large boulder.
    After a little more thought; this could mean there's a cross etched into the top of a boulder; somewhere near the mine you're looking for.
    " 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter

  7. #7
    gr
    Jul 2009
    35

    Re: Church Sign

    Post a few of your other signs that you say you have found and, maybe a picture or two of surrounding area. I think it will make it easier for those with knowledge to help you as they'll have a little more to go on. Sometimes a sign on its own says nothing and works in conjunction with something else in the area.

  8. #8

    Mar 2008
    131

    Re: Church Sign

    You are correct this symbol is telling you of a church mine in the area.

    Minetres

  9. #9
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
    BS
    1,668
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    Re: Church Sign

    Quote Originally Posted by minetres
    You are correct this symbol is telling you of a church mine in the area.

    Minetres
    How do you know this carving wasn't merely done by some good catholic - like hundreds, maybe thousands scratched in the rocks all over the southwest that are easy to find on trails, near native American petroglyphs, at springs, old camps, etc? Are you saying that cross=mine?
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

  10. #10

    Aug 2007
    Western New Mexico
    84

    Re: Church Sign

    Right, according to some folks this sign=mine. A gold mine was noted in this area according to a local legend that became "lost" during the 1680 revolt. Seeing the real carving, you could note three small crosses, which were very faint within the building below the cross.

  11. #11
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
    BS
    1,668
    2 times

    Re: Church Sign

    Quote Originally Posted by mjido
    Right, according to some folks this sign=mine. A gold mine was noted in this area according to a local legend that became "lost" during the 1680 revolt. Seeing the real carving, you could note three small crosses, which were very faint within the building below the cross.
    And the three crosses are even more of a typical Hispanic christian tribute (Jesus with two others at the crusifiction) - you find even more of these than you do the cross/pedestal. Heck, it's even the symbol of NM's 2nd largest city - Las Cruces. Nothing too exciting here.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

  12. #12
    us
    A Salute To the Navy Seals Team 6 Sharpshooters!

    Jul 2004
    The Land Of The Free Because Of The Brave!
    jesuit treasure signs, symbols and codes,logic,common sense
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    Re: Church Sign

    Minetres, you wrote....

    You are correct this symbol is telling you of a church mine in the area.
    Minetres


    Yes you too are correct Minetres, this sign was the mark for
    Chruch Mine/Treasure since the very beginning of Spanish Code
    Let no one diminish the finding of this sign..The cross looks like
    it is on a mound, but it is really a xxxxxx shape, plain and simple.

    I do agree with Thom too that by itself it is most likely a single
    devote 'paying penitence' by carving this sign...among other
    forms of genuflection on stone by the faithful.

    However, in proximity to a Mission or Chruch, this sign takes
    a whole new meaning.....certainly not to be dismissed out of hand.

    Same with the Trinity Crosses they ARE used in Treasure Signs as well
    as "stone honorariums' by those with a need to chisel these marks to
    leave something behind..
    Just trying to help...
    Au2u2
    rangler
    P8 "seek knowledge rather than silver, seek understanding rather than gold"

  13. #13

    Aug 2007
    Western New Mexico
    84

    Re: Church Sign

    rangler,

    Your right there is a mission/Pueblo in the area. By the way, this is long, long ways from Las Cruces. Exciting, maybe not to some people, but it was, along with some other signs, to us!

  14. #14
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Church Sign

    best of luck with your chase.

    (I somehow knew there were other signs)
    LOL
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  15. #15
    us
    A Salute To the Navy Seals Team 6 Sharpshooters!

    Jul 2004
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    jesuit treasure signs, symbols and codes,logic,common sense
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    Re: Church Sign

    mjido,
    Great news! thanks for the confirmation - it always feels good !

    Now for next set of signs, I suggest that you take a compass
    heading on the sign...see which Cardinal Point you are on.
    Then if you will , let me know what that degree is.....

    Also step back and take pics of the entire boulder that you
    found this sign on..at the correct 11-1pm time frame, depending
    on where you are...the sun may be too far below the 300 degree
    peak (summer equinox) to show, but still zoom in on that rock and
    look at every square inch to find either numbers or letters or both.

    Good luck , thanks for posting the pic of a GREAT sign..and let us
    know your progress.
    happy to help
    rangler
    P8 "seek knowledge rather than silver, seek understanding rather than gold"

  16. #16

    Aug 2007
    Western New Mexico
    84

    Re: Church Sign

    Hi Rangler, It looks like it will be spring or later before I can get back up the the country where these signs are, as soon as the first snow falls the Forest Service closes most of the roads into the back country, but be asured, I sure will try to get back up there in the spring.



    Jim
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Church Sign-scan0004.jpg   Church Sign-scan0005.jpg  

  17. #17
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
    5,871
    2 times

    Re: Church Sign

    In the last picture ...
    Is this sign associated with the first sign?

    It would be pretty cool if it is.
    This sign says ...
    "One more sign that marks the entrance"
    or
    "One more sign before the goal"

    Have the signs been getting smaller?
    Note the cross inside the small circle ...
    The last sign should be this size.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Church Sign-scan0005.jpg  
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  18. #18

    Dec 2006
    524
    1 times

    Re: Church Sign

    in pic from post #15, with the yellow marker,looks like someone survyed for some reason,
    at least it looks like a cap set

    my uncle past away, a few weeks ago, and he had the plat survey map, i went looking for the markers,
    that are stated on the plat as, 5/8"REBAR WITH CAP SET. and the fourth one i found was drove into a
    large boulder on the mountian side,and it looks like the one in the link,
    but then there are prob dif types, of those cap sets

    http://www.stakemill.com/index.php?m...image&pID=3975
    http://www.stakemill.com/index.php?m...x&cPath=76_668




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  19. #19

    Aug 2007
    Western New Mexico
    84

    Re: Church Sign

    Right, I believe this have been surveyed before, but have been unable to find out anything about it. Now, this sign isn't very far off the side of a dirt road. By placing a small stick into one of the drilled holes it kind of pointed in the direction of the other signs, which, by the way was a few miles away.

  20. #20
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
    BS
    1,668
    2 times

    Re: Church Sign

    mj, I really like the top photo in post 15 above. I believe many carved clues are topographic in nature and therefore your rock may have real promise. If it were me, I'd be looking at the ridge tops in the vicinity of your clues for a notch in the tree line. I don't know about the rest of the alterations on the rock, or your other clues or the part of NM you found them in either, but the notch reminds me a lot of the one in the photo below - quite a landmark if one is looking for it.

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Church Sign-notch.jpg  
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

 

 
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