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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
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    Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Need help with these carvings... There is a mine on the ridge next to this site with a hollow sound in the floor.
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  2. #2
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    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    I assume these are related to the Johnathan Swift legend.
    If so they really are interesting clues.

    Here they are converted to negative. the carvings really show up.

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    "But not everybody lives."

  3. #3
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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Old Dog,
    Could some of those symbols be Cherokee language symbols? I'm wondering about the end symbols in that upside down line of letters. After all, Ki is in eastern Kentucky and the Cherokees were in that area before being moved out by the government in the, I think, the 1700s. I was just spot reading some stuff last night that told how they were moved out of Virginia, the Carolina's, and eastern Kentucky / Tennessee well before the Trail of Tears thing out of Georgia and S. Carolina.
    " 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter

  4. #4
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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Here's some mark ups. Are some initials modern graffiti?

    Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)-name_carving_1-merged.jpg
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  5. #5
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    I wanna Thank everyone for the feed back so far on these carvings... Its been right at a year since i have found these, and i do believe these to be involved with the John Swift legend, after all I'm right in one of the areas Swift was believed to Mine and hide his silver...for you all wondering I'm in the Red River Gorge, here in Ky.
    Also there was alot of Shawnee, and Cherokee activity in this region for many years before their removal. I have been studying these carvings for almost a year now, these carvings are real, authentic, and very old. The main thing that supports this is the location where these carvings are, it is in the middle of nowhere, no public trails, actually no trail at all, just a very old trail you can see in spots here and there. These carvings are 3 or more miles from the nearest home located near by, and is on Private property "no trespassing".... The land is so rough and rugged i cant see just anyone making it to where these carvings are, it takes me around 3 hours to hike to this spot one way. There are also what appear to be older carvings here that have faded from weathering over the years that you cant really see, there are no recent marks around this rock, just these old ones... Thanks everyone it always helps to have more than just my two eyes looking at these marks.......
    "A picture can speak a thousand words"

  6. #6
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Old Dog, Shortstack.....
    I looked up the Cherokee alphabet and to my amazement the marks do match, some of these very well could be Cherokee marks, but I'm slow to rule out the Shawnee.......thanks you guys....
    "A picture can speak a thousand words"

  7. #7
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    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Don't believe the Shawnee had a written language.
    Cherokee is the only one.
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  8. #8
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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Ki,
    That helps "date" the site a little bit. Sequoyah invented the alphabet in 1819 and according to Wiki, "some symbols resemble Latin alphabet letters".
    Since that stone is so far back off of the "beaten track", all those symbols MIGHT mean it's a base point or pivot point for several "end locations". I have stopped using certain words that might pop up on search engines or monitoring applications for those nosey folks we're trying to "ignore" or avoid.
    " 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter

  9. #9
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
    MD & Handwand "CaveHunter"Hiker" SonyDigital SLR
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Ruled out Shawnee, those are indeed Cherokee. It is a Overlook about 100ft up on top of the ridge line cliff where these carvings are. From this point you can see for many miles, another key factor is this location is very close to the "main warriors path" that runs right through my area here in Ky. The reason i was slow to rule out the Shawnee was that they had a village a few miles west of my location called (eskippakithiki) now called Indian Old Fields. Cherokee also used the warriors path and would have put them in this general area. Now there are many treasure leads involving the Cherokee in my area, could it be the Cherokee that indicate the tunnel on the next ridge over in this carving, they was known to return to Ky looking for a lost treasure of there ancestors..
    It is reported that 3 Cherokee Indians came to a town just over from me, looking for a place where they could find a Indian princesses skull, the tunnel i found very well could be a tomb, instead of a mine like i thought........
    Ill read some more on this and post some of these story's if you all would like.... again thanks for all your help
    -Ki-
    "A picture can speak a thousand words"

  10. #10
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
    MD & Handwand "CaveHunter"Hiker" SonyDigital SLR
    604

    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Old Dog, The JS carving i stronly believe to be that of John Swift...
    He had help from either the Shawnee, and or Cherokee in his mining efforts.
    "A picture can speak a thousand words"

  11. #11
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    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    I think the Shawnee could safely be ruled out.
    I would enjoy greatly any stories you could post about the native legends.
    I have been fascinated with these stories since I was a little guy.
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  12. #12
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
    MD & Handwand "CaveHunter"Hiker" SonyDigital SLR
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Here's a good one that describes the area I'm in, also the mine i have found.... The Shawnee as well as the Cherokee claimed my area as their great hunting ground, and called this area the great meadow land. The Shawnee as well as the Cherokee would have known these secret places and recorded the history about known places in story's handed down generation to generation. It is known that Daniel Boone made peace with the Cherokee, and fought the Shawnee..
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...791#msg1903791
    here's the link to the Story, as well as the forum i write in alot
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    May 2007
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    A nice read Ki,
    Thanks
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  14. #14
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
    MD & Handwand "CaveHunter"Hiker" SonyDigital SLR
    604

    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Cherokee Treasure lead for my area.....
    In Febuary of 1871, three Cherokee Indians came to the farm of Jacob Crabtree
    fifteen miles east of Irvine, Ky. The Indians said they were within half a days journey
    of one of John Swift's silver mines. They went up little sinking creek, then went a
    few miles further due east. Three to four white men followed them, but the Indians
    managed to slip away from them. Late the next evening the Indians returned, bring-
    ing two buckskin bags full of rich silver ore. They then left the area. The white men
    searched but could never locate the silver mine. Henson.
    "A picture can speak a thousand words"

  15. #15
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    This is the mine i found on the ridge over from these carvings...... great place to hide something
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  16. #16
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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Ki,
    This big nosed guy on the right looks a little Olmec-like and the one on the left is wearing a priest-like head piece. They kind of jumped out, but the little skeleton head took a little longer to see.
    What'cha think? If this is the mine with a hollow sounding floor, PLEASE be careful.


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  17. #17
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
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    604

    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    Hey Shortstack...
    Thanks alot. I see those faces now. Pretty cool how those faces jump out at you. Still looking for some dates on the rocks around these two places. But I think I've found something here that people have looked for well over 200 years. I'll keep ya updated, again thanks alot, wanna thank Old Dog as well. When I get home I'll write alittle more. Got a few storys that pretain to this area, I'd write a few now but I don't have any saved to my iPhone just yet. Thanks guys
    "A picture can speak a thousand words"

  18. #18

    Nov 2007
    12

    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    In my opinion the eyes hold precious metals, the tongue you describe is really a finger pointing, "dig here". Pay attention to any circle within a circle, (doughnut) this place needs to be explored. Ancients have dug here. Hope that helps. Just a copper miners daughter.

  19. #19
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    "Seek And Ye Shall Find"

    Feb 2009
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
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    604

    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    you can tell this area is really old, theres a really old trail wore in the ledge around this cliff line , but on the other side of the ridge this path disappears. What ever this place was it was used alot.
    "A picture can speak a thousand words"

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    Lone Star State
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    Re: Need help decoding these rock carvings (treasure symbols)

    I'm with you on this one. Also, I usually provide links to images, but, since you are trying to keep a low profile, I uploaded these to TNET.

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