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  1. #1
    us
    Jan 2009
    New Mexico
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    Turtles In High Places

    Ok it is muddy and snowy and plain nasty out, here are some lofty turtles that I came accross the couple of times I got out.
    If someone would be so kind and explain the meaning and place the turtle plays is S/S.
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  2. #2
    us
    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
    Tesoro Bandido II and DeLeon. also a Detector Pro Headhunter Diver, and a Garrett BFO called The Hunter. Just added a Garrett Ace 250.
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    Re: Turtles In High Places

    Thomas:
    I've read many comments from S/S researchers here and on other forums about how turtles lead to treasure. Apparently they are a common trail marker. Old Dog says the Spanish studied the habits of several animals (the Sea Turtles for one) and use them as models for trail markers. Turtles can mean one or many deposits in the "hide" area. To get a good grounding on the "turtle" markers, read the different posts by Old Dog.
    I've spotted some interesting things in one of your photos. The next time you go out there, take closer looks at them. Some are carved figures and others are possible symbols.

    Turtles In High Places-canyon-turtle-1.jpg
    " 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter

  3. #3

    Mar 2008
    131

    Re: Turtles In High Places

    Turtles do lead to treasure if they have legs or fins you follow the direction there head points, some times tails. If the head is looking up you are at the spot, and also if it has no legs. Go to the web site Treasure hunters university and read the info he has. The info on the site is the same as in his book. Looking at your pictures this is a treasure site, maybe many caches in this area.

    Minetres

  4. #4
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Turtles In High Places

    Treasure hunter's University site only gives you enough info to find the signs.
    It says nothing about interpreting them correctly or following them.
    I believe it to be as sketchy as the book that gives only a piece of the information needed to get the job done.

    Of course there is the contact info of the author and owner of that site...
    Who of course will help (for a fee) anyone who calls him. LOL

    Best advice is to read these threads and then, ...
    go to treasure hunters University and get a bit of a chuckle at what the info doesn't tell you.
    The place is a fishing expedition for the beginner who may have a good site
    by a guy who thinks he can get you to give it away.

    Thomas,
    A two piece turtle is pointing in the direction of travel. Usually the head is pointing in the direction of travel.
    If you are really interested in what the position of the turtle is saying...
    Google sea turtles and read as much as you can find,
    look at pictures of them and take note of what the position of the turtle says he is doing.
    Do the research and get some good information, this will give you a solid leg up on others.
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  5. #5
    ca
    Aug 2005
    460

    Re: Turtles In High Places

    I see 1 possibly 2 Drill hole/s (2nd maybe a shadow) in your 1st Pic.
    maybe more info @ that 1 than just the Turtle.

  6. #6

    Dec 2006
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    Re: Turtles In High Places

    ThomasP, is that a live bear in front of the carved bear, i see a s or 5
    and are those rocks, that the rock is sitting on, in the first pic i see
    drill holes
    this pic you can see the 5 or s better, its the last pic in your post
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  7. #7
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Turtles In High Places

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsylife
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasP
    Ok it is muddy and snowy and plain nasty out, here are some lofty turtles that I came accross the couple of times I got out.
    If someone would be so kind and explain the meaning and place the turtle plays is S/S.

    Sorry you don't have a turtle. A turtle from all that I've seen are bigger than three semi trucks on top of each other and with the head in the air, when the treasure is removed the head of the turtle is removed.

    Gypsy Mining Company at yahoo
    A myth started by treasure hunters to keep other hunters off their trail.

    After reading your posts gypsy mining co,
    I am convinced you haven't chased these signs very long.
    If you are absolutely sure of your posts leave them up.
    otherwise ...
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  8. #8

    Mar 2008
    131

    Re: Turtles In High Places

    I know some people have said that the Spanish did not remove the heads, or cut them off, but the truth is they did. I have found many sites that had been cleaned out and that is exactly what they did. If the Indians cleaned out the sites to relocate the treasure, they would not remove or break the heads or noses off. Some of the turtle heads I found at these site were so big only the noses were cut off, you can still see the chisel marks today. I will post pictures soon when I can down load pictures, which I can not do at the moment.

    Minetres (mountain man)

  9. #9
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
    BS
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    Re: Turtles In High Places

    Quote Originally Posted by minetres
    I know some people have said that the Spanish did not remove the heads, or cut them off, but the truth is they did. I have found many sites that had been cleaned out and that is exactly what they did. If the Indians cleaned out the sites to relocate the treasure, they would not remove or break the heads or noses off. Some of the turtle heads I found at these site were so big only the noses were cut off, you can still see the chisel marks today. I will post pictures soon when I can down load pictures, which I can not do at the moment.

    Minetres (mountain man)
    Would like to see those pics - also the 'cleaned out' sites.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

  10. #10
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Turtles In High Places

    From what we (my partners and I) have experienced over the years ,
    if the Spanish weren't going to reuse a site they would not just knock the head off of a turtle .
    they would obliterate it into an unrecognizable pile of rubble and remove all signs leading to it.

    I would like to see the pictures as well
    but ... not holding my breath
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  11. #11
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
    BS
    1,668
    2 times

    Re: Turtles In High Places

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dog
    From what we (my partners and I) have experienced over the years ,
    if the Spanish weren't going to reuse a site they would not just knock the head off of a turtle .
    they would obliterate it into an unrecognizable pile of rubble and remove all signs leading to it.

    I would like to see the pictures as well
    but ... not holding my breath
    How did you know the 'unrecognizable pile of rubble' was once a turtle?
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

  12. #12
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Turtles In High Places

    By two other trails that led to the same place from different directions.
    This is one you would enjoy Steve.
    We picked up all kinds of stuff here.
    The local museum got lots of cool things from about 1590 to 1610.
    parts of weapons
    iron parts of horse and man armor
    buttons and such.

    this site has the indications of a running battle and a sneaky getaway in the dark.
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  13. #13
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
    BS
    1,668
    2 times

    Re: Turtles In High Places

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dog
    By two other trails that led to the same place from different directions.
    This is one you would enjoy Steve.
    We picked up all kinds of stuff here.
    The local museum got lots of cool things from about 1590 to 1610.
    parts of weapons
    iron parts of horse and man armor
    buttons and such.

    this site has the indications of a running battle and a sneaky getaway in the dark.
    Yes, I like those kind of places. But ... the turtle? Petitio principii?
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

 

 

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