Is this a turtle?

[Pala Y Pico]

Greetings to all. Please tell me what you see.

[CanadianTrout]

Just my opinion.... I see a Native site. No treasure type signs or marks.

[Old Dog]

May I suggest a couple things...
1. Don't mark out sections of a picture.
2.take a whisk broom and clean off the gravel from the surfaces affected.
clean out the depressions if you think them important.
# get a clear shot of the whole thing
(I noticed drill holes going out of the picture)

I saw no turtle, but couldn't see the whole picture so ...

[cw0909]

old dog said
2.take a whisk broom and clean off the gravel from the surfaces affected

i see what looks like a heart,dont see a turtle

[RockHopper2]

The bowl in the 3rd pic resembles the shape of an owl, with the tail feathers pointing to the right. The bowl will hold water to make a mirror image, this will make the tail point left. The rubble there may mean you will go up hill to the next sign. I'm probably wrong on this, but it's woth a try. Rocky

[Pala Y Pico]

Thank you all for your replies.

O.D in picture #1, the large rock with small rock on top, body of turtle. And turtle head (to the right) looking up.
Rock above cactus might be a dog head.
I also see a small owl to the right.
Is picture # 5 what you call drill holes?

Don`t hesitate to set me straight. When I am there in person, I have a hard time seeing what the camera shows me.

Cw0909- That small heart you enlarged. Did you notice the letter "M" under where you placed the enlarged heart.

RockHopper2, Picture#3-This bowl is next to the turtle, if it is a turtle. Picture # 2 shows the bottom part of the bowl and turtle head lookin up.
If your interpretation is right of a mirrored image, then the feathers are pointing at turtle, and up hill.

All pictures are with in 50 yds of each other.

Thanks again.

[Old Dog]

My friend,
Do not disregard the road itself.
Many old timers and diehards will tell you...
The major trails have roads that came over the top of them.
Almost all of the major highways and roads were Spanish trails at one time.

The compliment of time is imitation.

[Pala Y Pico]

These are more pictures close to my my turtle. In Pareidolia City? I have no Thunting books so I am paying close attention to your replies and suggestions. Muchas gracias (Thank you).

[Pala Y Pico]

One more picture that did not post with the above.

[Shortstack]

Pala Y Pico wrote, in part:
In Pareidolia City?


Just out of curiosity, how did you come up with that name?

[Pala Y Pico]

Hello Shortstack,

Re; Pareidolia City.
I first read "Pareidolia" on a thread in this forum. And looked in an online dictionary.
I am only refering to myself when I made that up.
Mmm... should I be admitting to that.
Now I know that what I see on my tortillas has a name.
And I am wondering if my turtle is in Pareidolia city.
Shortstack, thanks for posting, and I welcome you opinion on my pictures.

[Pala Y Pico]

Hola, Treasure Hunters,

Soon after I started reading Treasurenet. I stumbled on two sites. These pictures are from one site. if it`s a site at all.
I have marked up my own pictures, to show what I`m seeing.
I would like to get confirmation as to what I see.
Are there any true signs here?

Thanks, to those that choose to share their hard earned knowledge, for others and myself to learn.

Thanks amigos,

Mario

[Old Dog]

Mario,
The Dog is beautiful as is the owl.
As for the turtle I can't say.
The Hoya is spectacular in that it combines three shapes,
An owl at the bottom, a foot at the top, (which also looks like a dog and Confirms the dog in the first picture.)

This is a good looking alpha.
When the snow clears enough that you can see the signs and not leave too big a back trail in the mud...
go out and enjoy it. You have some well shaped markers, low and easily missed. Others on this trail will be as well.
I look forward to seeing what turns up.


Watch this place on a sunny day to see what turns up.
Do your watching from 10:00 am till 3:00 pm
as the sun moves the shadows will change,
things get placed in certain positions and signs show up only to disappear moments later.
The dark stone on top of the lighter stone says there are both sun and shadow signs here.

[Pala Y Pico]

Thom,

It feels good to know someone else see`s what I see.

Now to to put my pala y pico to work. My father in law has a frozen water pipe.

Have a nice day, Thom

Mario

[Pala Y Pico]

Thom,

On that light colored rock with the dark rock on top.

When I invert the colors, I see an arrow and four legged creature. I`m wondering if it`s anything important.

The arrow and creature point toward the Hoya, and my possible turtle.

[Old Dog]

Mario,

Dont pay too much attention to the rip-rap of loose stones,
Unless one of them is deeply rooted and physically immovable it won't be a sign.
The Spanish were bound by a set of rules that included anything that can be changed by accident or nature cannot be used as a sign.
This rule is why so very many signs still exist after 200 to 400 years.

[grillz]

Mario;
In picture #5 there are two drill holes, they look a bit heart shaped with pointers facing in the same direction. It's hard to tell from the photo, but if you were to run a straight line through the center of each one, would the lines be parallel to one another. I would go back to this place and using string, and a compass, would see if the lines are parallel. If they are not, they may cross at some point and that could be significant.

In a 1970 issue of "Treasure Magazine" there appeared a story of crew that recovered 137 lbs of gold. They inserted dowels into two drill holes in one rock and one in another. They noticed that the rods in the two holes were parallel and the single angled slightly in towards the two. They projected the lines out and found where the lines crossed was the entrance to the storeroom. This story was on a side thread here in the TNet archives, unfortunately, I don't recall which thread, and I forgot to make a note of it for future reference. (My bad). The story was accompanied by three diagrams, two of which were overhead views of the site, and one showing a side view of the tunnel, and photos of the gold.

If someone recalls this story, perhaps they will post the thread it's on. It is very informative and interesting.

[dsty]

Hello Mario, looks to me like a rectangle with other drill holes inside ( 4 corners ) there should be several other carvings / symbols / monuments in the vicinity,features in the bottom or around the outside edge of each of the 4 corner drill holes that may give a clue to what you may find on the possible corner's. they may be as far away as 1/2 mile or as close as 400 feet. Look at the big picture you may have a map, the distance / direction may be indicated between the drill holes, look for heads,portrayed at the corners, features that the stones / rocks / boulders outline indicate, pay attention to 3mm drill holes that may be covered up, a battery operated vacuum may be helpful, portable air tank, watch your eyes do these things after you sweep and photo number each drill hole with chalk then invert the photo and see whatyou have .

[Pala Y Pico]

The nice weather is good for this hobby. Also for Painting Contractors like me. The work picks up, and leaves less time for the hobby.

Here`s a few more photos.

[Shortstack]

Mario:
That last photo is outstanding. Looks like you caught the hoyo at just the right time. The bird's head outline with the sun formed eye is indicating "left". BUT, the sun heart inside is pointing to the sun flying bird. Could that mean follow the flying bird instead of the bird head opening??

You know; that flying bird looks more like a shark doesn't it??