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Thread: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
    Tesoro Bandido II and DeLeon. also a Detector Pro Headhunter Diver, and a Garrett BFO called The Hunter & a Garrett Ace 250.
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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    Mike:
    I gladdens my heart to read that you took steps for the spiritual needs of your project. I have offered advice in the past to folks who were expecting to find the remains of Indians on their projects, to try to have a Shaman with them to help the spirits find their peace.
    You are a good man.
    "Dobie created the HUNGER............Von Mueller said, EAT". comment by HELM Associates on the dedication page of their book, Treaasure Lead Generation.

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    MIKEL,

    I, LIKE MANY HOPE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE STORY AND HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO POST.

    IT HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE , BUT BEARS SAYING AGAIN, THE TRUE TREASURE IS NOT ALWAYS

    THE FINDING AND SEEING WHAT'S INSIDE, BUT THE JOURNEY ITSELF IS THE TREASURE.

    -WEEKENDER

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    yes the real history

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smee
    Quote Originally Posted by PROSPECTORMIKEL
    THE TWO SIGNS THAT I AM RESEARCHING ARE IN THE BOTTOM PIC. ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
    THE FIRST IS A LARGE SIGMA SIGN...("W" TURNED 90 DEGREES, CLOCKWISE.)
    THE SECOND IS JUST BELOW AND TO THE LEFT...IT IS A FANCY "Z" WITH THE CENTER PART
    CROSSED, AND THE BOTTOM PART ELONGATED AND MORE SCRIPT LOOKING.

    THEY ARE DARK COLORED AND THE AREA AROUND THEM ARE COVERED WITH A LIGHT GREEN MOSS THAT IS COMMON HERE IN THE OZARKS OF NW ARKANSAS.

    THERE ARE SEVERAL MORE ON THE ROCK FACE, BUT THESE ARE TH ONES THAT I NEED HELP WITH.

    AND THANKS AGAIN IN ADVANCE.

    PROSPECTORMIKEL
    The Cherokee, the folks who walked the "Trail of Tears" were removed from Northern Georgia (where they had already had their lands reduced) to NORTHWEST ARKANSAS. Not southern Arkansas, central Arkansas or even northeast Arkansas.

    Thus, the tree you are looking at . . . if it is in northwest Arkansas . . . is in the territory Andrew Jackson moved the Cherokee to --- the land he swapped to them for the property in northern Georgia --- so they could gather all the gold they thought the Cherokee were hoarding.

    It is not an attack on you. It is an attempt to wake up folks who think that the First Nations spent forever mining and gathering gold and silver and hoarding it before the white man arrived. Those are the kinds of stories spread by gooberment people which caused the despicable genocide in this land.

    If you are old enough to remember -- before the PC folks cleaned up the history books -- Hitler used similar sentiment to eradicate the Jews in WWII.
    hi smee as i said before my ggg grandmother was full blooded cherokee we know they were slaves to the spanish but where did they get the silver to make the jewelry

  5. #20
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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    Not attacking anyone. Only want to make clear that these trees do NOT point treasure.

    Why does it concern me when folks get confused about this?

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    Because a treasure hunter did this. The tree can't be replaced. It is was living history.

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    SHORTSTACK.........THANK YOU.
    WEEKENDER...........THANK YOU.
    POORFARM.............THANK YOU.

    SMEE.......................WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. GET YOUR OWN THREAD, STAY OFF OF MINE.

    I AM HERE ON "TREASURE NET" TO LEARN ABOUT OLD MINE SIGNS AND SYMBOLS.
    YOU HAVE MADE YOUR POINT. I WOULD NOT GET ON YOUR THREAD AND HOUND YOU,
    SO STOP DOING IT TO ME AND THE FOLKS THAT HAVE A COMMON PASSION.


    PROSPECTORMIKEL
    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
    Tesoro Bandido II and DeLeon. also a Detector Pro Headhunter Diver, and a Garrett BFO called The Hunter & a Garrett Ace 250.
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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    P-Mike:
    Sounds like you have found at least one mine. Have you had a chance to do any metal detecting around it or in it for relics? Any relic can help to date the mine plus, add some coins to your poke. If you're not interested in selling any relics, maybe a museum would like to display them.

    "Dobie created the HUNGER............Von Mueller said, EAT". comment by HELM Associates on the dedication page of their book, Treaasure Lead Generation.

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    SHORTSTACK,
    BOY OH BOY, HAVE I EVER MD'D THAT AREA. I SWUNG AN OLD-SCHOOL FISHER ABOUT 200 HR., GIVE OR TAKE A FEW. MY PARTNER RAN HIS BIG DOUBLE BOX FOR CLOSE TO 50 HRS. AND WE TOOK ON A THIRD PARTNER THAT HAD JUST BOUGHT A GEMS UNIT. I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS THE SMART ONE FOR FIGUREING OUT HOW TO WORK IT, OR IF I WAS THE BIG DUMMY THAT GOT ROPED INTO CARRYING THAT ELEPHANT AROUND FOR MOST OF THE HOTTEST MONTHS OF THE YEAR. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE HOW MANY GRIDS WE LAID OUT AND WORKED. I HAVE THEM LANDMARKED IN MY TOPO MAP, AND I CAN STILL REMEMBER THE ONE THAT WAS THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK.... BETWEEN, ER.. AMONGST THREE TREES WITH LOW LIMBS AND NOTHING BUT MELON SIZED STONES TO WALK ON.

    I TOLD THE OTHER TWO IF THEY WANTED ANY MORE PROOF THAT WE WERE IN THE WRONG AREA (ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH) THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT THEMSELVES.
    THEY DIDN'T EVEN GET IT PUT TOGETHER. I WAS AND STILL AM A PUREST ABOUT THE MINE.
    IT WAS MY GOAL TO STUDY IT. THEY WANTED TO CHASE CACHES. NOTHING WRONG WITH PICKING UP A LITTLE CHANGE, BUT I WANTED TO BE WORKING IN ONE PLACE AND THEY WANTED TO BE IN ANOTHER. WHEN IT WAS TIME TO VOTE ON WHERE WE WOULD WORK ON ANY GIVEN SATURDAY, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LIKE TWO WOLVES AND ONE LAMB, VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH. AT LEAST IT WAS UNTILL THE LAMB LET OUT HIS ROAR.
    WE GOT BACK ON TRACK SHORTLY THERE AFTER.

    ALL OF THAT WONDERFUL TECHNOLOGY AT OUR FINGERTIPS AND THE ONLY RELIC FOUND, WAS THE ONE THAT I FOUND ON THE FIRST DAY.... A CHIP OFF OF THE RIM OF A LARGE KETTLE. I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE RELICS THERE, BUT THE THINGS THAT I HAVE LEARNED SINCE I GOT ON TREASURENET HAVE GOT ME THINKING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE GONE BACK TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN AND WORKED IT OVER. I DON'T WANT TO GET MY CART BEFORE MY HORSE HERE, I HAVE MORE TO STUDY BEFORE I TRY TO REWRITE MY WHOLE BOOK. SO ....NUFF SAID FOR NOW.

    HAPPY HUNTING

    MIKEL
    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smee
    Not attacking anyone. Only want to make clear that these trees do NOT point treasure.

    Why does it concern me when folks get confused about this?




    Because a treasure hunter did this. The tree can't be replaced. It is was living history.
    smee u say a treasure hunter did this to remove the evidence wouldnt he have cut off the pointer maybe it was a protector throwing someone off trail

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    mike have u looked around these look odd maybe old pic
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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    POORFARM,
    YES, I HAVE LOOKED AROUND AND THERE ARE .........UM, I THINK I NEED TO PM THIS.

    MIKEL
    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    POOR FARM,
    I MAY HAVE MISSJUDGED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TREE. IT DOES CROSS TWO IMPORTANT
    POINTS WITHIN MY RESEARCH AREA, IN JUST UNDER A TWO DAY HIKE. HOWEVER; IF YOU STAY ON THE SAME HEADING IT WILL TAKE YOU TO A SIGNIFICANT BODY OF WATER.


    PM

    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    mike check out omniglot.com/index.htm

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    HEY, POOR FARM,
    I SPENT A LITTLE TIME ON THAT SITE, FOUND A COUPLE OF LEADS, BUT THEY DIDN'T PAN OUT.
    THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF ON IT. KINDA HARD TO SORT OUT WHAT YOU NEED WITHOUT KNOWING THE OTHER LANGUAGE.

    I COULDN'T SLEEP LAST NIGHT, SO I READ THRU A SMALL BOOK ON CHEROKEE WRITING, THE OLD LANGUAGE. FAIRLY SIMPLE TO READ, BUT AGAIN, WITHOUT KNOWING MORE THAN I DO OF THE LANGUAGE, I DIDN'T LEARN MUCH. I DID MANAGE TO RULE IT OUT OF THE CARVED SIGNS.
    I DID GET A LEAD SOME TIME AGO THAT I NEED TO RESEARCH A BIT MORE, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHO GAVE IT TO ME, BUT IT HAS A LINK TO "ROLLA SCHOOL OF MINING" AKA ROLLA UNIVERSITY. I WILL TRY TO CONTACT THEM SOME TIME THIS WEEK.
    HOPEFULLY THEY CAN HELP ME.

    THANKS

    PM
    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

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    Re: TWO SIGNS LEFT TO I.D. MINE, AS SPANISH, FRENCH, OR JESUIT.

    Wonderful post Mike, I have gone back to my the site that has the circles and it seems that you work them as you do a drill hole, yours is 18 inches across which is 18 divide by 4 = 4 1/2 X length of the stem , check backwards, there should be another carving that direction that way also as well as the direction of the angle stem. Mike if I may use drill holes as an example, a 4 inch across drill hole = 10 CM and its 4 inches deep that's 10 CM also, then the circumference around will be 34.5 X 2 = 69 or a cordell = 189 feet. If I had the length of the stems it would be helpful and a fabric tape measure is a must. Hope this will be helpful. Thanks Rangler, Thom, DM, Lost Horse and a lot of other folks that keeps me thinking and busy. Those are Crafty critters, they all get A-Plus

 

 
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