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  1. #1
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    May 2010
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    Help on Sign

    Hoping for some opinions from old hands. I have what may be a dagger or upside down cross carved into rock. The figure has been unquestionably chiseled into the surface. The condition of the surface indicates it has been there for quite some time. First, any idea as to origins? History of such marks? And, any thoughts as to meanings? Thanks.

  2. #2
    nf
    Feb 2011
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    Re: Help on Sign

    used as a pointer showing dir

  3. #3
    us
    May 2009
    The Show Me State
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    Re: Help on Sign

    Any pics you could share? What general locality are the signs?
    As Old Dog has noted, daggers frequently indicate north. Does that ring true in your case?
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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

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    Re: Help on Sign

    I Saint:
    First, welcome to the forum.

    Second: Here is what Old Dog recently posted on another thread about daggers,

    The dagger (if not pointing North)
    Is used as a sign associated with distance.
    It probably says to "cut the distance in half".

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    us
    Apr 2008
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    Re: Help on Sign

    Thinking about daggers and swords i have seen and actually reocgnized as such, (about 3 of them), none of them was pointed up. Two were pointed horizontally, one down.

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  6. #6
    us
    May 2010
    5

    Re: Help on Sign

    Thanks. I really can't determine if it's a dagger or upside down cross, but that you for your input. I will think about pics as I'd have to return to the location.

  7. #7
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: Help on Sign

    I have pictures of crosses that were made frome spikes xarved in stone.
    does that sound like your sign?
    Spikes are often mistaken for daggers or knives.

    A picture would help a lot
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    us
    Oct 2010
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    Re: Help on Sign

    One map I have shows Dagger pointing West and actually sits on a survey line in the field running N and S.
    I have seen other daggers in the field that sat on an angle to N and S like 30 degrees or 60 degrees off of N S line.

    Points the way or like others said here, cut in half measurement

    Here is pic of knife with NS Line at an angle
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  9. #9
    us
    May 2010
    5

    Re: Help on Sign

    Thank you again folks. I will not be able to post a pic for a couple of weeks. I hope to hear from you again after it is up.

  10. #10
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
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    Re: Help on Sign

    Quote Originally Posted by goverton
    One map I have shows Dagger pointing West and actually sits on a survey line in the field running N and S.
    I have seen other daggers in the field that sat on an angle to N and S like 30 degrees or 60 degrees off of N S line.

    Points the way or like others said here, cut in half measurement

    Here is pic of knife with NS Line at an angle
    That looks a lot like a Bowie knife - might help date the carving.
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  11. #11
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    A Salute To the Navy Seals Team 6 Sharpshooters!

    Jul 2004
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    Re: Help on Sign

    infidel,gov
    the handle on that knife is the letter D
    D is the 4th letter of the alphabet = Duet Chpt 4


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  12. #12
    us
    "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein

    Jan 2007
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    Re: Help on Sign

    Quote Originally Posted by rangler
    infidel,
    the handle on that knife is the letter D
    D is the 4th letter of the alphabet = Duet Chpt 4
    rangler


    "these are the statues and judgements I give you this day"
    Ahhhhhh, that's goverton's photo, not infidelsaint's.
    " 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter

  13. #13
    us
    Oct 2010
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    Re: Help on Sign

    Quote Originally Posted by Shortstack
    Quote Originally Posted by rangler
    infidel,
    the handle on that knife is the letter D
    D is the 4th letter of the alphabet = Duet Chpt 4
    rangler


    "these are the statues and judgements I give you this day"
    Ahhhhhh, that's goverton's photo, not infidelsaint's.
    Yes and That Blade is pointing 30 degrees off of N-S Line

  14. #14
    us
    Apr 2010
    Garrett , Minelab ,White's, others and B.S. sniffer
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    Re: Help on Sign

    Live By the Sword, Die By the Sword,....perhaps Buried By the Sword?
    Just throwing one in the mix that points up...nothing above but the sky.
    Shows up on June 21st....combo shadow/sun sign....Warning!...which someone did not heed, as the cavity behind and below appears open & empty.

    Oddrock
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  15. #15
    us
    A Salute To the Navy Seals Team 6 Sharpshooters!

    Jul 2004
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    Re: Help on Sign

    rocky,
    wonderful knife sign, shadow and sun style,,nice catch and on the soltice..lots of stuff hidden on that day gang...
    I am fairly convinced you have the classic decoy, empty vault sign, invented by the jesuits at the later end of their golden age...
    Help on Sign-june-21-2010-002-640x478-rockys-knife-heart-marked-rangler.jpg
    A very clever way to make all who find this spot think the goods are gone..but I have worked these in the supers..and the tell tale sign...is the signs around the decoy empty vault..for instance
    1.knife pointing up
    2.shadow heart pointing up
    3.white dog, looking at the heart as he likes to do..pointing up
    he has a triangle for an eye, so he is looking at the final layout..
    4.owl rock incorporated looking very nice
    5.the ubiquitous number "7" and this aint no campground 7
    6.black shadow arrow, pointing out the 'chick'
    7.chick, looking at the heart..the chick might mean a second smaller cache
    confirmed nicely by all 7 elements..all telling you to go up...
    I know you said nothing up there but sky.. it might mean up and over,
    but for sure this site continues...up [perhaps north]
    this is an omega, so your close...just up a ways..lol
    hope this helps
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    decoy vault one of the last chapters in breaking the code
    hidden in plain site as you can see, very well hidden only the kings men
    could have seen thru this one..so the chances are... it may be intact~!
    P8 "seek knowledge rather than silver, seek understanding rather than gold"

  16. #16
    us
    Apr 2010
    Garrett , Minelab ,White's, others and B.S. sniffer
    472

    Re: Help on Sign

    Rangler,

    Not at all surprised that you caught the classic s/s right away. Decoy/false cache is exactly what my partner and I determined the hole behind to be. I would like to point out 3 things of interest. In the lower right area, a big nosed shadow profile. To the left of the knife/sword a shadow demon profile. On the left most rock above and to the left of the owl is another profile head(with an interesting eye)...all three looking to the left. The "chick" may also represent the "trowel" or the "flame", just not upright. Thanks for your post!

    Oddrock

  17. #17
    us
    May 2010
    5

    Re: Help on Sign

    I hope mine is a hell of a lot simpler. If it is what I think, then it probably confirms a legend.

  18. #18
    us
    Sep 2007
    UTAH
    tf900 & a good old fashioned willow forked limb
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    Re: Help on Sign

    Quote Originally Posted by goverton
    One map I have shows Dagger pointing West and actually sits on a survey line in the field running N and S.
    I have seen other daggers in the field that sat on an angle to N and S like 30 degrees or 60 degrees off of N S line.

    Points the way or like others said here, cut in half measurement

    Here is pic of knife with NS Line at an angle
    Looks to much like a diagram of a booby trap underground. Probably going into or just leaving a corner near unto the quartz; instead of gold, one finds the light at the end of the tunnel as his torch lights up the quartz ahead. Also a detailed map wherein the artist has created an overlay of more than one scale together in an effort to appear as one picture. Looking for the same shapes in natural features on the ground; each sequence scaling down until you reach your destination.

  19. #19
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    A Salute To the Navy Seals Team 6 Sharpshooters!

    Jul 2004
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    Re: Help on Sign

    rocky,
    thanks bud, now that is two signs in two days that you taught me about..thank you
    your welcome for the post, my pleasure...and that flame, trowel thing, thanks twisted...
    for that piece of data, I didnt think I would see one so soon, thanks again - the eagle eyed
    rocky...I know these caches are shaking in their booty when you walk by...lol
    thanks for helping me help others-oh do you have a meaning for the seal hoyo? pm ok
    rangler
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    this litho was labeled oro1?

    .."the master learns from the student"...old zen saying
    P8 "seek knowledge rather than silver, seek understanding rather than gold"

  20. #20
    us
    Sep 2007
    UTAH
    tf900 & a good old fashioned willow forked limb
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    Re: Help on Sign

    The mountain ridges fold in sets of 3 + 1 or a partial portion as a canyon added to where precious metals are found.

 

 
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