Real or Memorex?

[Springfield]

All found within 200 yards of eachother.

[Ground0]

Wow!

Hard to fathom that these could be anything but real (man made.) Howd they do that?

Fascinating...

[desertmoons]

Interesting. They seem sort of far apart for a ..clover leaf type of thing - i mean trail junction... Number one and two seem artificially modified or perhaps the context suggests they are modified. . The suspected trail junctions i have seen tended to be more compact in their perimeters of markers. Seems like it might be giving you some trail directions though. I would think that, before i thought "oh shadow triangle..something must be near by." Just speculation.

The others not so sure unless those are drillholes? One looks completely natural too me.

You get nice view of the canyons there? Looks like rough country to me but at least you have a bit of shade. Did you see anything interesting along the bluffs when you checked out the views? Like..a pass or repeating shape...

[Sheldon J]

Yes
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[dsty]

Hello Springfield, the 2nd photo seems to have a 1/2 triangle or 1/2 of a league on the bottom, directions, left and right and straight ahead, looks to me like, north , east and west and one where the triangle is at for directions to 2 starting point and the starting point of something Very interesting, lines may be the start of 3 line of caches running north and south there may be 5 in a row when you find them, stacked kinda like the section lines are in our world, those sure look like drill holes to me also, may-be what to look for. Now I'm interested

[rangler]

Steve,

this is a wonder that you finally posted some pics after all these years as a critic..as you know [so you say] that these are the left overs from hippies, surveyors, timber men, hunters, prospectors, miners, wetbacks,sheepherders, cattlemen, and the odd adolescent playing 'lost davey crockett...' your not believing in all that 'kings rules' silliness are you hmmm?

otherwise why would post those pics?
you had that coming stevie..stevie wonder , my man~!
rangler

[Shortstack]

Photos 1,2,3,5,&6 look man-modified to me. By that I mean, man-moved or man-carved upon, or both.

How's that for tap dancing? LOL

[mdog]

Beautiful pictures Springfield. Thank you. I really like the second picture.

Rick

[rangler]

Steve,
ok , I had my little bit of fun, and now to take a look at your first pic...
first of all I think you know, as I have said it enough that the hoyo is king..
for confirmation, and it is the data center in terms of telling us what is next
or what to look for..well this outline [hoyo] does not say anything that
I can see...at first glance...but I did notice the 'black shadow under the lighted
portion of the hoyo and that makes the top half of a heart shadow..[another first~!]
sooooooo if you complete the heart shape and use it as a pointer, you look
to see what it is pointing out..here this time the line points out the head
with one eye..experience tells me a one eye is closed, because things are close
and the hints here, is what could he be looking at..well line of sight..hits the
full shadow of a large [huge] heart..confirming what the half heart was telling us.

nice huh steve, now your not a critic your a tracker and you got your first solution
to a monument - [at at least by me] but you gotta climb this one or circle back behind it if possible.

here are the necessary elements that you need to confirm the whole cha-cha

1.large shadow heart
2.line of sight
3.profile face with one eye
4.owl shadow
5. top half of a shadow heart
nice and tight just the way i like it~!
congrats steve and welcome to this side of the tracks
rangler

ps: spot no.1 not only has a very large shadow heart..it also contains a shadow that is hard to tell at this magnification but it looks like an large owl shadow..AND it seems a full on sun sign is sitting right on top of the shadow..and can not quite tell what that shape is..but you will steve when you hike up there...hope you will let us know with a close up pic of all those elements together- also the other rocks could be just superfluous.


notice this the top half of the heart is just slightly over
the edge of the cross...oh this pic is from the 17th century...
and that the same part of the heart they hid in shadow under
the lighted part of the hoyo..very well hidden in plain site~!

[Springfield]

Of the six photos I posted at the beginning of the thead, the last three are obviously natural balanced rocks. These things are quite striking and are found in abundance (thousands) all over the southwest. That said, let's look again at the first three:

Photo 1: manmade in 1995. A Search and Rescue team was scouring this difficult terrain for a suicide victim and erected a number of these to mark the sections of a grid search pattern. A second monument is posted below for comparison. I located two additional - they were all set up in clearings for easier reference.

Photo 2: intriguing, but I believe it is natural because of its subtlety. You never know though - the view below seems to show the triangle pointing at the double eyecatchers up in the rocks beyond. Those palisades are brutal to explore - steep, rocky and impenetrable buckbrush and catclaw.

Photo 3: possibly a dolman - a trail marker. It is visible from below at the beginning of a canyon that ascends to the top of the divide where some genuine treasure signs are carved. A second view is below.

I intend on posting those genuine signs on another thread.

[rangler]

Photo 1: manmade in 1995. A Search and Rescue team was scouring this difficult terrain for a suicide victim and erected a number of these to mark the sections of a grid search pattern. A second monument is posted below for comparison. I located two additional - they were set up in clearings for easier reference.
sorry steve nice try..but you got this real one confused with the others..if they did use this for a grid marker, then they didnt touch it since it was put there by the codemakers...no way in the world can you have a shadow heart under a hoyo..that points to a mans face on the cliff
that is looking at a huge full size heart shadow on the same cliff face..chances trillions to one
sorry you cant make that pig fly dude..so now you go to the extreme length to deny treasure signs that are real , as manmade in your agenda driven set up...nope nada no way
whos payroll are you on? must be one of the big players for you to go so far out on that limb...
no one will believe you now steve....the proof is right in front of every tracker who follows this site - you must be fishing for clues at your own site...using a cover story. typical.
rangler

your chasing your tail now dude

[Springfield]

Photo 1: manmade in 1995. A Search and Rescue team was scouring this difficult terrain for a suicide victim and erected a number of these to mark the sections of a grid search pattern. A second monument is posted below for comparison. I located two additional - they were set up in clearings for easier reference.
sorry steve nice try..but you got this real one confused with the others..if they did use this for a grid marker, then they didnt touch it since it was put there by the codemakers...no way in the world can you have a shadow heart under a hoyo..that points to a mans face on the cliff
that is looking at a huge full size heart shadow on the same cliff face..chances trillions to one
sorry you cant make that pig fly dude..so now you go to the extreme length to deny treasure signs that are real , as manmade in your agenda driven set up...nope nada no way
whos payroll are you on? must be one of the big players for you to go so far out on that limb...
no one will believe you now steve....the proof is right in front of every tracker who follows this site - you must be fishing for clues at your own site...using a cover story. typical.
rangler


your chasing your tail now dude

Are you really that far into la-la land? I was on that search in 1995, and I can guarantee you what I posted previously is 100% accurate. I didn't personally build the monuments, but I know who did. Building monuments is a common practice in the real world - they have many uses. I didn't really expect your 'analysis' of the photo, but it sure confirms to me you are living in a fantasy world. Must be fun. See my next thread, bud, and you won't see dream visions, but you will see treasure signs.

[rangler]

Are you really that far into la-la land?

no but I plainly see you are in disinformation land - when try to cover up a real sign
and spin it as one made by a search and rescue team very funny really..
as the rescue team this sign was meant for was the Kings Recovery Crew~!

what is 100% accurate is the original sign just as the codemakers crafted it..I have seen literally hundreds of monuments, here and in real life...and that monument is not only real spanish..is is real rare hoyo..never has their been, as far as I can remember a shadow under a lighted hoyo with a critical tiny sign hidden..I know you didnt see that when you chose to try to spin this..or you would not have used it for agenda purposes, also I know you did not see that HUGE full size shadow heart on the skyline, and if you did you would have know the two are tied together and actually confirm each other you would not have used it either..so you blundered this one stevie...backfired I am afraid...you can't twist the facts when the elements of the code are now broken..sorry dude..try again.......I know you will
rangler

[Springfield]

My agenda, as I've repeatedly posted, and which can be verified by anyone who cares, is to encourage searchers to be discriminating about where they choose to spend their time and energy in the 'th' field. I repeatedly post rational, real world opinions based on real world experience. I don't expect all readers to listen - I only offer sound advice to those who have ears to hear.

If anyone is in jeopardy of hanging himself, it would be you, since you are the one who claims to know all the secrets. Last time I checked, it was all whiskey talk with no proof. I don't know the secrets, but I do know the right questions to ponder.

[mdog]

That was a good lesson Springfield. You had me scratching my head on those big balanced rocks. I was wondering how did they get those up there. But you never claimed on your first post that the rocks were treasure markers. A lesson like this one should encourage people to do their homework before they spend a lot of time chasing rocks in the field. I'm looking forward to the real markers on your next thread.

Rick

[rangler]

If anyone is in jeopardy of hanging himself, it would be you, since you are the one who claims to know all the secrets. Last time I checked, it was all whiskey talk with no proof. I don't know the secrets,*.

I not only know enough to break the code, I posted the solutions many times over
so those that are true trackers can learn the code for themselves...
you can lead a horse to water......but you cant make him drink whiskey...
rangler

*you do know enough to try to make people drink kool-aid however.

I am afraid you tied this to your spin line.........................

[Springfield]

...now that the code is broken,,yada, yada, yada ....

More of the same.

[Shortstack]

Springfield:
You have presented an EXCELLENT lesson............in more ways than one.

[HOOSIERau]

They all look like real rocks to me !
(giggle)

[desertmoons]

Thanks Steve,

I found it very educational and worthwhile. A good thing to consider when evaluating rocks and potential markers.

Kim