Pointer Tree ?

[Hoss KGC]

Yes, this "progress" is very sad. I'm not ashamed to tell you that I shed some tears over that. These people came in and mowed everything in their way. They took the valuable trees and just left everything else. Furthermore, the heavy equipment destroyed the earth with the large tires and vast weight and this ruined buried markers. I'm still evaluating whether I can continue this layout or not. The very first pointer tree I posted in this thread is now gone...so unnecessary. These people have no idea what they destroyed!
Big Hoss

 

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[cw0909]

hoss i think you could be right about some of the trees, i still think the kgc
prob used existing thong/indian trail trees to,and like you say, the kgc didnt mark
the trees to throw you off the trail, but to set the trail, so i went looking to
see if your right, all i can say is wow,who knew links to all kinds of info,on shaping trees,
and the thong/indian trail trees,the jpg only 7yr to do that to the tree, so
im guessing a simple bend would be a lot less time

Janssen, Raymond E. 1934 Indian Trail Trees [Magazine]
in The American Forests magazine...
http://www.mountainstewards.org/project/references/American_Forester.pdf
pic is clickable
http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/bittersweet/wi78b.htm

Axel Erlandson and his Tree Circus
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Oth...ntPhenomena/FantasticTreesOfAxelErlandson.htm

http://pruned.blogspot.com/2005/06/axel-erlandson-and-tree-circus.html

Pioneers- Chapter 6
Excerpt
http://www.arborsmith.com/treecircus.html

images of sculpted trees
http://www.arborsmith.com/ps_gallery/pages/c.htm

http://www.arborsmith.com/ps_gallery3/pages/a.htm
http://www.arborsmith.com/ps_gallery3.html
arborsculpture
http://www.arborsmith.com/index.html

 

[tesoro dog]

Hoss KGC! What say you Amigo, is this one KGC? Palo Verde Tree out West! Thank You td

 

[Ground0]

This is what I consider to be a "thong tree." It has no marks, but is within 200 yards of two other manipulated trees that create an X. (I'll post them shortly)

This tree points to a cave.

 

[Ground0]

This is what I consider to be a "thong tree." It has no marks, but is within 200 yards of two other manipulated trees that create an X. (I'll post them shortly)

This tree points to a cave.

These trees are perfectly aligned-North-South. This shot was taken facing East.

 

[Smee]

Why the bent trees look smaller than one would expect is because of the manipulation. It restricts their growth in a manner similar to bonsai.

My problem is, with no KGC activity in my area, I have seen the trees destroyed by people who were looking for treasure.

As for the trees being related to KGC treasures, I have yet to see anyone with the intestinal fortitude to PROVE anything at all.

Not even a picture of a location found where the cache had already been removed by the time the searcher found it.

. . . but, that is a discussion for another thread.

Boattow, thanks for the postings. You and I disagree on this subject, but you've always spoken based on knowledge, with no deception. I appreciate that.

I really enjoyed this person's web site. Illinois - trail trees. You can tell he really has a passion and love for them. Even sculpted one.

http://www.greatlakestrailtreesociety.org/trail_tree_gallery.html

Hoss thanks for sharing.

As for Mr. Downes, he may sound nice, but . . . let's just say if he walked into a pouring rain without an umbrella, he'd drown. We've exchanged ideas, but he thinks he has a monopoly on the trees.

Personally, I think he's a closet treasure hunter.

 

[Hoss KGC]

Boattow, thanks for the postings. You and I disagree on this subject, but you've always spoken based on knowledge, with no deception. I appreciate that.

Thanks for the kind words Smee.

How about this picture. A little interesting?

 

[Smee]

Nice pic. Real peaceful looking

Seen one like this before?

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[Sackett]

I agree with who ever it was above that posted about "causality" trees...I grew up in the woods in the mountains of North Carolina, and there are hundreds of trees such as these!! No doubt that SOME were markers, but very few! Most are "victims" of something when young!!

 

[Smee]

One would need to look for the specific markings that would be there if bent by humans, as opposed to the way a tree would look if bent by another tree falling on it, an ice storm, being broken by an animal or human while very young.

For the most part (but not always as methods changed over time), wide sweeping arcs are a dead giveaway that one is looking at a casualty tree.

 

[cw0909]

i was looking up Chernobyl and found this tree
the cap says in ww2 the nazis,used it for a hanging tree

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl-revisited/chapter2.html

 

[Smee]

Likely was originally a burial tree. These were created by various peoples besides Native Americans. This includes the Siberians of Russia as mentioned here:

http://www.jstor.org/pss/3772884

One very famous burial tree is located in Oregon, called the Octopus Tree:



The Dakota also used trees when available:

The[/url] Dakotas bury their dead in the tops of trees when limbs can be found sufficiently horizontal to support scaffolding on which to lay the body, but as such growth is not common in Dakota, the more general practice is to lay them upon scaffolds from 7 to 10 feet high and out of the reach of carnivorous animals as the wolf.

 

[cw0909]

Smee we have a couple of those here, they are called signal trees
http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/d...-14cc-456a-b93c-4734e3cab5b7&wst=6&gid=2&st=2
this is near a friends place Southport, North Carolina, in Brunswick County
http://www.hmdb.org/PhotoFullSize.asp?PhotoID=53740

be them trail trres marked with kgc,or just trail/thong trees, they are cool looking trees

 

[Smee]

That second link looks a lot like the Keziah tree . . . which actually predates Columbus by several hundred years . . . so obviously the Keziah tree could not be KGC as there was no KGC at the time.

KGC trees would seemingly be no more than 160 years old unless the KGC were clairvoyant and could see the war more than 10 years ahead of time, as well as predicting its outcome and planning for the secreting away of monies and weapons for a future uprising. Therefore, trees predating 1850 would probably be of other origin, such as Native American.

On the other hand, if they could see all those things were to come about, as well as the results, why couldn't they see that many of those treasures would be lost to treasure hunters or plain old decay?

 

[dsty]

I have heard that the KGC was an offshoot of the Stone Masons, just a thought