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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinoa View Post
    Odd, the link works fine for me
    Works perfectly for me as well. Thanks.
    “The shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, but the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3

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    I've been labeling the guys with the pointed helmets and beards like that in Mav's picture "the celts". I see the black knight head image in the lower right Quadrant. I suppose they could be called priests as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinoa View Post
    I've been labeling the guys with the pointed helmets and beards like that in Mav's picture "the celts". I see the black knight head image in the lower right Quadrant. I suppose they could be called priests as well.


    good eye Q.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog, the treasure hunter View Post
    Thats what happens when you dont follow the rule book. Iam starting to think it might be the Russians, they got there hands in everything over here.Attachment 1557977Just let me know if you want this deleted Maverick1.
    (der Wald)

    but he who can make that hike....is welcome to it. Ruskys included
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    Did you notice the ancient King's head forming in that large shadow with the heart near the top of his hat/crown? Wonder how old that is?Click image for larger version. 

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    I'd take a quik guess the black pointed helmet guy is pointing out a mine in that trench near the old ancient king's head. Might even be a gunsite near the black knight head that's pointing.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadeaux View Post
    Works perfectly for me as well. Thanks.
    Yeah, the link works, but it only takes you to the top of page 1 of the thread, not to the referenced post (page 13 for me, since I receive the threads with the latest posts displayed first). Here's Quinoa's link's code: Willie L Douthit [treasurenet.com/forums/victorio-peak/440556-willie-l-douthit-13.html]

    Here's an example of a link to a specific post: The Peralta Stone Maps, Real Maps to Lost Gold Mines or Cruel Hoax?
    [treasurenet.com/forums/lost-dutchman-s-mine/26266-peralta-stone-maps-real-maps-lost-gold-mines-cruel-hoax-18.html#post554662] See the difference in the code - it takes you straight to a specific post. That thread has over 3100 posts. Who wants to wade through them trying to find a specific post? Not me.
    Last edited by sdcfia; Mar 02, 2018 at 03:52 PM.
    "The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." Frank Zappa

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdcfia View Post
    Yeah, the link works, but it only takes you to the top of page 1 of the thread, not to the referenced post (page 13 for me, since I receive the threads with the latest posts displayed first). Here's Quinoa's link's code: Willie L Douthit [treasurenet.com/forums/victorio-peak/440556-willie-l-douthit-13.html]

    Here's an example of a link to a specific post: The Peralta Stone Maps, Real Maps to Lost Gold Mines or Cruel Hoax?
    [treasurenet.com/forums/lost-dutchman-s-mine/26266-peralta-stone-maps-real-maps-lost-gold-mines-cruel-hoax-18.html#post554662] See the difference in the code - it takes you straight to a specific post. That thread has over 3100 posts. Who wants to wade through them trying to find a specific post? Not me.

    My "mouse over" shows it goes right to page 29, even when logged out. It's the first post on that page. Odd that your link goes to a different one. Anyways, I didn't intend it to be so difficult, should have just been a click.
    It goes right it to it when I click my original post's link, even when logged out. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinoa View Post
    Did you notice the ancient King's head forming in that large shadow with the heart near the top of his hat/crown? Wonder how old that is?Click image for larger version. 

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    …..still waiting on Steve to call it game over, or “cool” in re. to Time/Old/How?

    …and Q. did you get a chance to look in that wash? In line between the helmet and the king?
    There’s a big triangle/arrow (etched in the bank's shoulder) pointing in the direction you identified. (do we still need guns?lol)
    That wash is like a school(ing) playground. It has it ALL. If you know/heard about it….it’s there.
    That’s the reason for choosing to post it, the more you look, the more you see. Enjoy.
    Last edited by Maverick1; Mar 02, 2018 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinoa View Post
    I'd take a quik guess the black pointed helmet guy is pointing out a mine in that trench near the old ancient king's head. Might even be a gunsite near the black knight head that's pointing.Click image for larger version. 

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    Turning over that cliff, (which I named Wuthering Heights-because of the constant high winds)
    to my surprise —and theirs- I came almost face to face with two huge ravens. I think, at least one of them had a wing span close to 4 feet, and a nice and shiny beak that seemed 4+ inches.
    They didn’t seem very worried about my head popping out within the borders of their realm, and barely moved over. It was until my full body came in view, that they decided to hop-hop-hop to a safer distance.
    Funny thoughts cross your mind when you’re alone in wilderness, and my initial worry was…”can this big guy actually pick me up, and still fly?” Half a second later, the thought turned into an image and I couldn’t stop laughing out loud, while my hand relaxed from the shooter. And then, continuing on that funny thought process….”what if they work together?” Ha? LMAO, this time.
    I think it was the sound of my voice laughing, that convinced them to hop-hop…whooooossshhhh elegantly and catching the wind under their wings. Seeing that display,….oh my God came into mind…(my camera, where is my camera…)

    P.S.
    (didn’t see any obvious mining remnants in my field of view, atop. Not to say it couldn’t be. Possibly quite a ways out or better camouflaged. To me it seemed like a wait station for next delivery, by the wash/road. There are no other man-made roads, except for narrow trails that even a horse will have a hard time winding his body. No quad, or rock-crawler either. Legs only, burro or personal) But, man watta view. That picture was taken a few clicks down towards the wash. Wuthering Heights is behind me.
    Last edited by Maverick1; Mar 02, 2018 at 06:55 PM.

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    The facts behind the factoids
    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick1 View Post
    …..still waiting on Steve to call it game over, or “cool” in re. to Time/Old/How? ...
    You guys can post whatever you want on this thread, Mav. I don't own or patrol it - I only started it to provide hopefully useful information to folks who roam the hills and encounter manmade things that they wonder about.

    As far as your photo goes, it's a nice ravine - just the kind of place I like to knock around in. I'm at a loss seeing whatever it is you consider significant about it, even though I'm extremely adept at pareidolia recognition of familiar shapes. Some of these types of visions can be useful as landmarks on trails if clear enough for the masses to recognize. However, most are merely right brain phenomena that vary wildly with folks. Some see them (most need to be prompted), some don't - hardly a "marker" or "clue", IMO.

    I liked your raven story - these are my favorite birds. I could go way OT and repeat my own bird-in-remote-canyon story, but instead I'll wait to see if I can make any sense of your canyon pic. So far ... it's just a private whisper I guess.
    "The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." Frank Zappa

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    Let me explain some things on how gold/copper other metals form in the strata, as well as a couple reasons why the "trenches" at many of the mines. I may even throw in a few pictures of actual prospects/ etc that reflect it later on when I have more time to mess around on my computer.

    First of all, gold forms as a gas that precipitates out , often with quartz in mine-able amounts over the course of a couple hundred thousand years thru cracks, faults dikes, weak layers in strata or between strata layers/geologic bodies or contact points. Likely spots for the mineralization/precipitation areas will be between parallel rock outcrops which are either horizontal or more or less vertical. The other location that I have seen them at is directly on the underside of larger outcrops, possibly due to the heavy metal settling out near the bottom. Likely areas of course for this sort of thing are mountain regions or areas of faulting and heavy uplift ( which there is a ton of it in the US).

    So one reason you have a trench is to get below the rock outcrop and have a place to funnel the material . Another reason is parallel rock layers running vertical in which you tunnel in between them, so a trench is simply the by product of digging it out. Now the third and perhaps more controversial, is that slavery was used to work some of these mines, and they liked to funnel the slaves out of the entrance so they couldn't rush out in several directions and revolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdcfia View Post
    You guys can post whatever you want on this thread, Mav. I don't own or patrol it - I only started it to provide hopefully useful information to folks who roam the hills and encounter manmade things that they wonder about.

    As far as your photo goes, it's a nice ravine - just the kind of place I like to knock around in. I'm at a loss seeing whatever it is you consider significant about it, even though I'm extremely adept at pareidolia recognition of familiar shapes. Some of these types of visions can be useful as landmarks on trails if clear enough for the masses to recognize. However, most are merely right brain phenomena that vary wildly with folks. Some see them (most need to be prompted), some don't - hardly a "marker" or "clue", IMO.

    I liked your raven story - these are my favorite birds. I could go way OT and repeat my own bird-in-remote-canyon story, but instead I'll wait to see if I can make any sense of your canyon pic. So far ... it's just a private whisper I guess.

    Thank you kindly, Steve. Your input is –as you know- always greatly appreciated. Now that you mentioned OT, and us having the same preferred bird, a thought (came to me) that should be weighted by both of us.
    You have an open invitation to come visit (my?) the ravine and other canyons any time at your convenience and pleasure,…your schedule permitting. As we speak, we may have another 2, maybe 2 ½ months of suitable weather for playing outdoors, in my area.
    This is not a joke, but if you’re considering a fun adventure, maybe we should start planning. The worst that can happen, we’ll both end up with some great pictures, good time and great stories. As I will not try to make a believer out of you, or anybody, a little fresh air and trekking into a different world where it seems that Time stood still, should be a positive experience, regardless. Fun is almost guaranteed.
    Thank you again for allowing picture/discussion on thread. Honestly I expected no less, or would have not done it. Also, I think I got enough for now, to help some people’s interests or passion or plain curiosity, if any.

    P.S. Do you have a camper? Or RV or other ad-hoc quarters? It will come handy. (quad or side by side too,…to some locations) (I have a rock-crawler)

  14. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinoa View Post
    Let me explain some things on how gold/copper other metals form in the strata, as well as a couple reasons why the "trenches" at many of the mines. I may even throw in a few pictures of actual prospects/ etc that reflect it later on when I have more time to mess around on my computer.

    First of all, gold forms as a gas that precipitates out , often with quartz in mine-able amounts over the course of a couple hundred thousand years thru cracks, faults dikes, weak layers in strata or between strata layers/geologic bodies or contact points. Likely spots for the mineralization/precipitation areas will be between parallel rock outcrops which are either horizontal or more or less vertical. The other location that I have seen them at is directly on the underside of larger outcrops, possibly due to the heavy metal settling out near the bottom. Likely areas of course for this sort of thing are mountain regions or areas of faulting and heavy uplift ( which there is a ton of it in the US).

    So one reason you have a trench is to get below the rock outcrop and have a place to funnel the material . Another reason is parallel rock layers running vertical in which you tunnel in between them, so a trench is simply the by product of digging it out. Now the third and perhaps more controversial, is that slavery was used to work some of these mines, and they liked to funnel the slaves out of the entrance so they couldn't rush out in several directions and revolt.
    I think you just described an exploratory, also called a coyote hole? maybe I mix them up

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    The main King's mines that slavery was used at will likely have a trench.. It may or may not get covered back up to hide it. I've seen one's that are still there. The other prospect holes won't likely have one. Alot of these mineralization things will "pinch out" really quik thus leaving an odd overhang/undercut on some outcrops. Also many will be finger fissures or veins coming off the main. So you will find many prospects on a hillside, but only one or two will likely be the main mine unless you are in an unusually rich area, in which case they will still mark the best one very well, and it will likely have an out of place trench to a backfilled spot that is usually hard to see and caved-in over it or covered well.

    Also you have a lot of old timer miners during the gold rush digging all over the place as well as tapping at these pinch out spots or weak mineralization spots and messing up many of the markers around looking under large marker boulders near streams for placer and such..

 

 
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