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Sinclair reveals Knights Templars' secrets
Wed, 10 October 2007
By Tyler Midkiff
Larson Newspapers

For more than 200 years, the Knights Templars were powerful beyond the scope of most kings. With absolutely legendary fighting abilities and public discretions, they may have secured the most sought after treasures in human history, according to Ian Sinclair, Grand Prior of the Scottish Knight Templars.

On Thursday, Oct. 4, Sinclair spoke before a packed audience at the Sedona Public Library about the mysteries surrounding the Knights Templars, the Sinclair family and Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland.

The Knights Templars — founded near the beginning of the 12th century — allegedly formed to protect Christian pilgrims journeying to and from the city of Jerusalem just after the First Crusades.

When Crusaders took Jerusalem by storm in A.D. 1097, they massacred and beheaded thousands, according to Sinclair. Henry de St. Clair, one of the Scottish Crusader knights — a descendent of Catherine de St. Clair and Knights Templar founder Hugues de Payens — returned home to Scotland with stories of vast wealth buried somewhere in Jerusalem, possibly in the ruins of Herod’s Temple. Before long, French and Scottish Templars assembled and began digging for treasure.

“They were not interested in history,” Sinclair assured. “What they were after was a vast treasure … the Ark of the Covenant? the Holy Grail? Who knows?”

In A.D. 1119, Hugues de Payens and a group of primitive archaeologists gained access to a vault beneath the rubble of Herod’s Temple and found treasure, according to Sinclair, who said their presence in the vault was later confirmed when Templar artifacts were discovered during an archaeological expedition.

“Hugues de Payens was surely there,” Sinclair said, but “what did he discover? What did he find?”

The enormous wealth that allowed the Knights Templars to become deeply involved in castle building and entertaining most certainly did not come from farming, according to Sinclair.

That extraordinary wealth may have been the impetus for King Philip IV of France and Pope Clement V, also based in France, to order the execution of all French Knights Templars in late 1307.

On Friday, Oct. 13, of that year — the day forever known as Black Friday — mass executions were ordered and the response “was soon, swift and lethal,” Sinclair said. The Templars’ vast wealth, however, was never found.

There’s considerable evidence to suggest Templars were forewarned of King Philip’s plans. Twenty Templar ships left France just days before Black Friday, according to Sinclair — some bound for Portugal and others for the Western Isles.

“Many historians believe that the vast treasure most certainly headed for Rosslyn — not directly, but it most certainly headed for Roslin” — a small town south of Edinburgh, Scotland, Sinclair said.

Rosslyn Chapel, a 15th century church designed by Knights Templar William Sinclair, may be where the Holy Grail and other treasures and documents were once stored — and perhaps still are, according to Sinclair.

His ancestors began building the chapel in 1446, just a year after a fire nearly devastated nearby Roslin Castle. Several caskets of documents and other treasures were allegedly spared from the fire, and those treasures may be buried in the crypt 40 feet below Rosslyn Chapel’s foundation, Sinclair said.

The magnificently-designed chapel took approximately 40 years to complete and the Sinclairs spent massive amounts of money during the process. Its location, which is remarkably close to another church, is more than a bit suspicious, according to Sinclair.

Why build a chapel so close to a church, he asked. There’s no reason, unless ….

“Rosslyn Chapel was not built as a place of worship. It was built as a repository for secrets,” Sinclair said. Evidence that the chapel is actually a reconstruction of the Temple of Herod only fuels the mystery.

“All the pillars are laid out to a precise plan according to ancient history,” according to Sinclair, and “the ritual references carved into the stone have been created as a clue for the individual who will one day unlock the mysteries of Rosslyn.”

If there are indeed mysteries to be unlocked, unlocking them may lead to some of the most earth-shattering archaeological discoveries in history.

Sinclair is hopeful that, in due time, those mysteries will be unlocked, he said. He makes no claims as to what the Holy Grail actually is, but he believes he knows where to find it.

“The Holy Grail is down below in the vaults,” Sinclair assured. “Believe me, the Holy Grail is down below.”

For more information about the Scottish Knight Templars and Rosslyn Chapel mysteries, visit www.gnostictemplars.org.



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Ken...great story..thanks for posting. I wonder why he is now publicizing the info, especially where they have been so closed mouth and secretive in the past??? Their treasure, or part of it, is also one of the many rumored items to be on Oak Island. Would be nice for it to be discovered just to see what exactly their "treasure" is, for regardless of what it is, the historical value of it is incredible, to say nothing of the monetary value.
Still baffles me why he is going public with the info, it goes against everything the Templars have stood for.... ??? ??? ???
 

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Thanks maindigger, check out this recent article. I've just recieved a couple more that I'll post after I get a chance to read them.

Vatican paper set to clear Knights Templar
By Malcolm Moore in Rome
Last Updated: 2:08am BST 05/10/2007



The mysteries of the Order of the Knights Templar could soon be laid bare after the Vatican announced the release of a crucial document which has not been seen for almost 700 years.

Guardians of the Grail


Knights Templar are rumoured to guard the Holy Grail


A new book, Processus contra Templarios, will be published by the Vatican's Secret Archive on Oct 25, and promises to restore the reputation of the Templars, whose leaders were burned as heretics when the order was dissolved in 1314.

The Knights Templar were a powerful and secretive group of warrior monks during the Middle Ages. Their secrecy has given birth to endless legends, including one that they guard the Holy Grail.

Recently, they have been featured in films including The Da Vinci Code and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

The Order was founded by Hugues de Payns, a French knight, after the First Crusade of 1099 to protect pilgrims on the road to Jerusalem. Its headquarters was the captured Al-Aqsa mosque on the Temple Mount, which lent the Templars their name.

But when Jerusalem fell to Muslim rule in 1244, rumours surfaced that the knights were heretics who worshipped idols in a secret initiation ceremony.

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In 1307, King Philip IV "the Fair" of France, in desperate need of funds, ordered the arrest and torture of all Templars. After confessing various sins their leader, Jacques de Molay, was burnt at the stake.

Pope Clement V then dissolved the order and issued arrest warrants for all remaining members. Ever since, the Templars have been thought of as heretics.

The new book is based on a scrap of parchment discovered in the Vatican's secret archives in 2001 by Professor Barbara Frale. The long-lost document is a record of the trial of the Templars before Pope Clement, and ends with a papal absolution from all heresies.

Prof Frale said: "I could not believe it when I found it. The paper was put in the wrong archive in the 17th century."

The document, known as the Chinon parchment, reveals that the Templars had an initiation ceremony which involved "spitting on the cross", "denying Jesus" and kissing the lower back, navel and mouth of the man proposing them.

The Templars explained to Pope Clement that the initiation mimicked the humiliation that knights could suffer if they fell into the hands of the Saracens, while the kissing ceremony was a sign of their total obedience.

The Pope concluded that the entrance ritual was not truly blasphemous, as alleged by King Philip when he had the knights arrested. However, he was forced to dissolve the Order to keep peace with France and prevent a schism in the church.

"This is proof that the Templars were not heretics," said Prof Frale. "The Pope was obliged to ask pardon from the knights.

"For 700 years we have believed that the Templars died as cursed men, and this absolves them."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/05/wvatican105.xml

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Heretics no more: Vatican finally reveals secrets of the trials of the Knights Templar
MARTYN MCLAUGHLIN ([email protected])
WITH a price tag of ÂŁ4,000, it will be seen by some as a costly sequel to a paperback novel routinely discarded in airport terminals and second-hand bookshops the world over. But within the leather binding of Processus Contra Templarios, lie answers and revelations which generations of conspiracy theorists and religious scholars alike have craved.

The 300-page document seeks to lay bare the mysteries of the Order of the Knights Templar, a powerful and secretive group whose legend has given birth to innumerable theories and a worldwide publishing phenomenon in the form of Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code.

Gathering dust in its secret archives for close to 700 years, Trial Against The Templars was published yesterday by the Vatican.

Detailing the heresy trials of members of the wealthy medieval order, its contents, which were written during the reign of Pope Clement V at the outset of the 14th century, make for remarkable reading.

For centuries, the received opinion stated that the Knights Templar, founded by Hugues de Payns, a French knight, in the wake of the First Crusade of 1099 to protect Christian pilgrims visiting Jerusalem during the Middle Ages, could never rid themselves of a cursed reputation.

The persecution of the order has its roots in 1244, the year Jerusalem fell to Muslim rule, and rumours swiftly spread that the knights were heretics who worshipped idols in a secret initiation ceremony.

Their role as a fighting order of knights came to an end, and the Order became little more than a collection of bankers with inordinate wealth.

In 1307, King Philip IV of France ordered the arrest and torture of all templars. Upon confessing various sins under duress, their leader, the grand master, Jacques de Molay, was burned at the stake. Pope Clement V then dissolved the order in 1314 and issued arrest warrants for all remaining members. Some survivors fled. Some were absorbed by other orders, and over the centuries various groups have claimed to be descended from the templars, many in Scotland.

Ever since, their number have been thought of as heretics.

Processus Contra Templarios, however, restores their reputation to an extent. The publication, presented at a press conference yesterday by Monsignor Sergio Pagano, the prefect of the Vatican Secret Archives, is based on the remains of a document, known as the Chinon parchment, discovered in the Vatican's vast vaults six years ago by Professor Barbara Frale. It had been filed mistakenly - some will suggest, deliberately - in a 17th-century archive, ensuring few would know of its existence.

In essence, it is a record of the trial of the templars before the Pope. Its conclusion shatters all myths: the knights received a papal absolution from all heresies.

Explaining their initiation ceremony, during which members spat on the cross, "denied Jesus" and kissed the lower back, mouth and navel of the man proposing them, the text describes the 14th-century templars reasoning to Pope Clement that their service mimicked the humiliation they could suffer if they fell into the hands of the Saracens. The kissing, they added, symbolised their complete obedience.

It was enough for Pope Clement, who concluded that the ritual was not blasphemous, although he did see fit to find them guilty of lesser infractions of church law. The only reason he dissolved the order, it now appears, was to preserve amenable relations with the French and avert a schism in the Church.

The Catholic Church, however, despite being asked by supposed descendants of the templars, will not offer any forthright apology for the events of 700 years ago.

A stern Monsignor Pagano, in fact, supposed there was little new that could be gleaned from the parchment. But in the eyes of Prof Frale, who has written five books on the Knights Templar, the slate has been wiped clean. "The parchment clears them of heresy, but there is no doubt that they were guilty of minor misdemeanours," the Italian historian concluded yesterday.

Given that their history is a tapestry of religious, political and cultural threads, interest in the rich, confused legacy of the templars is not restricted to students of papal matters.

Since the publication of The Da Vinci Code, coupled with the likes of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Ivanhoe, the order has become inextricably bound to wild and fanciful theories, foremost among them the notion that the templars guard the Holy Grail, the cup from which Jesus drank at the Last Supper.

Furthermore, many of the embellished myths are linked to Rosslyn Chapel in Midlothian.

Whatever the truth, the book will not end the speculation, nor can it be easily acquired by those inclined to further such ideas.

It is, after all, no ordinary book. Measuring half a metre wide by two metres long, its attention to detail includes reproductions of stains and imperfections seen on the original parchment.

The ÂŁ4,000 price reflects the craft. Only 800 copies have been produced, the majority reserved by librarians and academics. Pope Benedict XVI has been gifted a copy.

If there ever truly was a treasure linked to the Knights Templar, then surely that is the most valuable of all.

• Additional reporting by Nick Pisa, in Rome

TREASURES HIDDEN IN SECRET ARCHIVE
WHETHER it was filed there mistakenly or as part of a nefarious ploy that will add fuel to the fires of conspiracy, the emergence of the Chinon parchment (reference number Archivum Arcis Armarium D 218) is testament to the extraordinary range of documentation held in the Vatican's secret archive.

Founded by Pope Paul V in the 17th century, it gathered together innumerable papal archives dating as far back as the 8th century.

Many of its treasures are filed in miles of anonymous racks beneath the Belvedere Courtyard, alongside mundane administrative records and papal account books. In all, there are believed to be upwards of 30 miles of shelving.

The more remarkable examples include records of the trial of Galileo; contracts and letters signed by Michelangelo; love letters from Henry VIII to Anne Boleyn, which were stolen by papal spies; the last letter of Mary, Queen of Scots, to the pope before her execution, in which she writes, "I have no more wish to live in this world"; a letter from King Charles I to Pope Innocent X; a document dated 1654 informing Innocent X of the abdication of Queen Christina, who had converted to Catholicism; and the peace treaty signed by the Emperor Napoleon and Pope Pius VII.

Generally, the archival documents remain under lock and key unless they are released by a papal administration. For instance, in 1985, the documents from the tenures of Pope Pius X and Pope Benedict XV were made public.

Five years ago, Pope John Paul II began making available some of the documents from the Historical Archives of the Secretariat of State, which pertain to the Vatican's relations with Germany during the pontificate of Pope Pius XI, which ran from 1922 to 1939.

It is now the custom that documents in the archives are made available to the public after a period of 75 years.

Provided they give ample justification, and advance notice, scholars can also be permitted access to the files.

More info @ www.vatican.va

This article: http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1707772007


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I am fascinated with the Knights templar, infact, ( this annoys me) my gf who inherited her grannys house, well, her grandad, died many years ago before the granny, short version is this..while my friends been cleaning out the house, she knew her granddad was the grand whatever ya call it for this area..and he also was a collector of other mason organizations.. the sad part is shes been selling all his things, hes got swords, complete ceremonial outfits, all of it..you name it shes got it.. all kinds of paper work, tons of code books... and i mean some of these things are just awesome to look at, shes been selling them slowly on ebay.. I just was dumbfounded.. she was gonna sell his gold ring too but so far I talked her out of that one..its just sad to see her family history get sold off on ebay..
 

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I don't have any idea of what all of you think about this subject but if this document was found "misplaced" in this collection I wonder what earth moving information is still kept hidden from the world to see and read. Perhaps our Mr. Brown was on to something !!! I suggest to all you thinkers that the Vatican with all its riches and treasures do not want to open the vaults up to inspection for fear that they will lose there grip on the worlds people. Please note this is just my thinking so don't send me nasty grams if you disagree but think about what they have hidden from worlds scholars.
 

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