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    Trommel in ca question

    Can anyone tell me if I made a 12v trommel is that illegal in ca because it's "motorized"? I haven't been able to find any info weather it would fall under a highbanker set up or not. Any info is much appreciated

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    what does the trommel bein motorized have to do with anything?

    https://www.amazon.com/Location-Vali.../dp/B0017DEKGO
    start from square one and learn what your talking about..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMarshall View Post
    what does the trommel bein motorized have to do with anything?

    https://www.amazon.com/Location-Vali.../dp/B0017DEKGO
    start from square one and learn what your talking about..
    So I keep reading and getting told that in ca you can't do anything motorized. I have herd about the ban on motorized dredging and I herd that you can high bank with a permit but I wasn't sure about a trommel. Looking for any valid info from anyone in ca that has had experience using a trommel that might help clarify. Some miners have told me they are illegal to use in ca and others have said they are just fine to use.

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    How about making a water wheel and flex shaft to run the Trommel? That is what I would do, water powered like a sluice box, Gawwd I hate stupid regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gldguy1 View Post
    So I keep reading and getting told that in ca you can't do anything motorized. I have herd about the ban on motorized dredging and I herd that you can high bank with a permit but I wasn't sure about a trommel. Looking for any valid info from anyone in ca that has had experience using a trommel that might help clarify. Some miners have told me they are illegal to use in ca and others have said they are just fine to use.
    Just ignore the old farts that are bitter they are too old to mine. There is no law prohibiting motors for mining in California.

    There is a non-existent permit system for dredging. How anyone could assume that non-existent permit has anything to do with motors or your trommel is beyond me.

    We don't need make believe laws. Next time one of these old farts tell you that you can't run a motor tell them to produce a law or get back to their bong and recliner.

    Heavy Pans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clay Diggins View Post
    Just ignore the old farts that are bitter they are too old to mine. There is no law prohibiting motors for mining in California.

    There is a non-existent permit system for dredging. How anyone could assume that non-existent permit has anything to do with motors or your trommel is beyond me.

    We don't need make believe laws. Next time one of these old farts tell you that you can't run a motor tell them to produce a law or get back to their bong and recliner.

    Heavy Pans
    Thank you sir for all the info and I agree with what you say.

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    clay diggins is right: You're confusing mining laws (things that silt rivers) with trommels.

    Unless you were intending to use a trommel in a river and treat it as a prospecting tool for nuggets or something ? I'm lost. Isn't trommels on dry land , hence having nothing to do with dredging and sluicing in water ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    clay diggins is right: You're confusing mining laws (things that silt rivers) with trommels.

    Unless you were intending to use a trommel in a river and treat it as a prospecting tool for nuggets or something ? I'm lost. Isn't trommels on dry land , hence having nothing to do with dredging and sluicing in water ?
    My intent was to just use the trommel on dry land but when I asked around I was told because it was motorized it wasn't allowed, I appreciate everyone's input on this, thank you

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    There some bitter old farts in one of my prospecting clubs that will tell you that using a sluice is illegal, and by tell I mean jump down your throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gldguy1 View Post
    .... but when I asked around I was told because it was motorized it wasn't allowed,...
    Who told you this ? Did you tell them it was on dry land, and not a sluice/dredge in a river ?

    As for "asking around" and getting odd answers: It's sort of like asking a bunch of people "Can I pick my nose ?". You will eventually find someone to tell you "No, you can't pick your nose".

    Hence I do not ask silly questions to bored bureaucrats, when it comes to metal detecting pursuits. Lest you bump into arbitrary whimsical "safe" answers. Or ... even answers with no bearing in actual law .
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    how are you moving water through your trommel and sluice

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    So I was asking a few fellow miners out at the river a while back if they had ever used a trommel and they said no those are illegal in ca due to the fact they have motors. My reply was even to sift dirt and they said yeh. My though was hooking up a system like what I saw some guy use where your using it on dry land and using a series of buckets and pans to get your water from, like in the photo I attached. I have never used a trommel but seems like those who do have great results with them.Click image for larger version. 

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    you should be fine , if you start pumping water out of a waterway , they will mess with you
    and yes I do run a slightly larger trommel in cali . mine did require permiting
    Last edited by dredgernaut; Oct 26, 2017 at 08:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dredgernaut View Post
    you should be fine , if you start pumping water out of a waterway , they will mess with you
    and yes I do run a slightly larger trommel in cali . mine did require permiting
    Thank you for your input, I figure I will just mess around this winter make my own out of some pvc and see what happens.

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    they may try and mess with you for pumping water,There is however no actual law against it.

    Just don't let the discharge dump right back into the water way.

    A recirc trommel sounds like one of the least fun ways to run material I can think of. You are going to have issues keeping the water right for running.
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