What are the current theories?

[Not Peralta]

treasminder2, you have no idea what I think or what my response would be, the reason I asked the question was ,a lot of people that was involved with onfp and jerry c, had no idea they were being investigated and interrogated by there own group. that's a fact, that group kept everyone associated with them paranoid all the time. that's a fact. np ps. I could not care less,if you care at all. Im sorry it bothers you that I know what I know, and you don't know what I know.

 

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[treasminder2]

treasminder2, you have no idea what I think or what my response would be, the reason I asked the question was ,a lot of people that was involved with onfp and jerry c, had no idea they were being investigated and interrogated by there own group. that's a fact, that group kept everyone associated with them paranoid all the time. that's a fact. np ps. I could not care less,if you care at all. Im sorry it bothers you that I know what I know, and you don't know what I know.

Quote : Im sorry it bothers you that I know what I know, and you don't know what I know.

what would you have me reveal to you ?

That the ONFP Group had Huge Financial Backers who would spend tons of cash
having me Stalked by their Goons ?

Why would that Group bother with a Bum like me ?


Try this Scenario

Say the Boys at the Pentagon hate to be told qwhat to do by anyone

Say when it appeared the ONFP Group had some Congressional Backing
and just might get that permit to enter the base ,,,,

Certain Big Boys at The Office of Special Operations , thought it would be a Kick to set that Group up
for a Fall .

1. Get one or two Gov. agents inside the group , ( I know for a fact that was done )

2. Leak Mock Photos and Documents to the Group Anonomously , giving those an air of mystery enough
to almost brand them by the group as " Authentic ,,, they must be ,,, they just showed up here
mysteriously "

( I know for a fact , that was done to ONFP )

3. Set up and Entrap the Major players in the Group , in a conspiracy to induce them
to commit a Felonius Crime , and catch them at it .

I know for a fact that was done to them .

4. Bait must be had , what bait shall be used to get this Group to commit the crime ?


Plan " B "

Photos of Treasure inside a Cave , and get another wiseguy whose Family was involved in Treasure Hunting ,, but was NOT attached to the ONFP ...

who would that be ? would it be " Me , Roger Snow "?

Ok , how do you get Roger Snow to take photos of treasure in a Cave ?

You set up a Staged Prop ,

Let's say the cave , was not even in the Mountains

Lets say all that treasure as well as the Arc of the Cov . was stage props

Lets say

Rog's dad is Dead
and Rog' takes the film found in the Camera to have it developed .

Lets say some goons have Rog' under Survailence and grab the film before Rog' can get it .

These Goons work for the backers of ONFP , and when they see the photos of Treasure

They flip the heck out and try to figure a way to get a killing S.O.B. like myself to show them where
he found the treasure .

lets say that is close enough for the pretend.

Now
Lets do Motive on why the Gov. would go to such .

It would be effective as a way to permanently close the door on tha Con-Man Group

they would forever shut the heck up and just fade off the Radar .

As well

Certain Congressmen who supported ONFP , People Like Oren Hatch for instance .

Make Military Minds very upset .

Would such a Theater actually be created by the Big Boys ?

Let us not kid ourselves

they do this all the time

it gives them practice for Black Ops and Psy-Ops

it ias well did the best thing it could have done

and that was ,,,

GOT THAT MORMON CHURCH BACKED FAMILY GROUP , OUT OF THEIR HAIR PERMANENTLY .

~~~~~~~~ End Game of who gets the Credit for finding Treasure ~~~~~~~~~~~

Understand something NP

The U.S. Intelligence Community is very large and wide

it has absolutely no outside controllers, No Politions are going to control it
or do anything about it's crimes .

It is a Country unto itself ,,,,

and anyone,,,, ANY "ONE " outside of it , is considered they're ENEMY

The way it works is, they need no motive to do anything to anyone ,,,, other than the fact , they do it because they can .

They did not do this to COVER UP any past theft from the peak

they did it because ONFP , by making a request to enter the bas e and dig

Gave them a fun little Venue to play with the folks .

Fun and Games really ? that's all it was ?

When you have the power that the Intelligence community has

fun and games on live humans just goes with the position they occupy .


do I feel sorry for delonas and Cheatum ?

They Bit the bait they desired , and LOST by their own consciousness ,,,,

they ate crap because of the way they THINK

and it served them well .

Do I feel bad for what I lived through ?

Nope , think of it ,,,,

any one you know that had such an experiential life ?

I consider myself rather fortunate to have lived such an Adventure .

So what is real

and what is not ?

Do you really know

sorry man

you can never be sure , not when the Tech they use , can produce a believable Image of your
God right in your Bedroom , and you will swear it was REAL GOD

so
what do you really Know ?

Zero man

you cannot even be sure you live in your own skin

fo4r all you know

they could have implanted multiple personallities in your mind

and you may be a Steve when you thought you were an Edward .

swear to you

I've seen it done many times to people

one of those people ,,, is typing this to you right now .

 

[Not Peralta]

treasminder2, thank you for finally answering my post from july 17, I do know and I do understand. np

 

[treasminder2]

treasminder2, thank you for finally answering my post from july 17, I do know and I do understand. np

Spoof operations

Projects

these are what I grew up with

I by default expect everything to be orchestrated theatrics .

Treasure ?

Ha !

ONFP deserved the screws .

believe that

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Gentlemen, keep it cordial...

 

[treasminder2]

This was never " Not " Cordial .

not to argue cordiality , But the perceptions a person may have regarding the review of written text ,
may differ widely with what is the actual intended didactic presented .

Interesting to me in my study of the human mind , is the per-conceived assumptions it applies to each event
it is witness to .

One may wish to state they have an open mind , however that is seldom true .

each mind is reliant upon it's conditioning by former events encountered by the individual and as well
as the Parents input while that individual was in the growing stages of life .

Said that the square peg will not fit in the round hole and believed to be true by the impressional mind
of a Child .

the child will avoid any attempt to test this .

as with the Churches Dictate that the Earth was flat

sometime in the course of Human endeavors

is required the alternate perceptions
to break the false rule

and venture out beyond a line of compliance to a defunct belief .

Horizons are in this manner , reached and surpassed

allowing progressive growth to evolve out of the darkness of dead thoughts .


You never have to find your freedom

if ,,,,

You never believed you never had it to begin with at birth .

Those age old Human placed conceptions that one must rule another , has done the human experience the worst of
harm .

The glass is neither half full nor half empty , The contents constricted within
are simply trapped at a level suitable to it's content .

However
if that content gave to evolve beyond , then perhaps it would grow to it's fullest potential and become that
which serves best it's existence .

To stunt the minds growth and possibillities

is exactly the cause of conflict and wars .

We seem to be trapped in defunct parameters by a refusal to come to understanding we are free to think
we have greater potential in the way of processing the experiences we exist by .


I am not intimidated by the thought of the higher mind being a possibility and seeking to exercise a will
to evolve in it's direction .

Where the problem arises in that , is the rules set down by those who never give value to thinking outside known confortable
parameters .

Shame to me if I hold the mind of another back from seeking beyond my parameters

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

So, you admit that I have found Tayopa and the Jesuit path to Rome eh ( shaddup, "All roads lead to Rome") Drink yer coffee/

 

[treasminder2]

i CAN ADMIT THAT WHAT A MAN BELIEVES TO BE HIS REALITY

IS HIS OwN AND HE HAS A RIGHT TO IT

AND THAT NO OTHER MAN HAS ANY RIGHT TO DICTATE THEIR REALITY UPON ANOTHER

THAT FREE TO CHOOSE OUR OWN REALITY , IS A SELF ACTUATED GIFT , NONE CAN HONESTLY REFER TO ANOTHERS REALITY AS CRAZY , WITHOUT FIRST CONFRONTING
THE TRUTH OF THEIR OWN SELF MANIFESTED REALITY AND EXAMINING IT FOR FAULTS AS OTHERS MAY PERCEIVE IT TO OWN .

WE EACH THINK WE ARE SANE

EACH CAN JUST AS WELL BE LABELD INSANE BY ANOTHER

i ASK THAT A PERSON NAME ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY BELIEVE IS PERFECTLY SANE .

AND I HAVE FOUND , THAT NO MATTER WHOM THEY CHOOSE AS THEIR IDEAL
OF THE PERFECTLY SANE HUMAN ,,,
i CAN POINT OUT A FLAW IN THAT PERSON TO THEM

If you believ you have found the path to Rome

you have my support for that belief .

I would not challenge it .

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Think nah almost positive - the road to Rome is paved with silver and Gold via Los Caballos & Victorio Peak and on down the Rio Grande. Prob a few loads were lost on the trips over the years.

 

[treasminder2]

Think nah almost positive - the road to Rome is paved with silver and Gold via Los Caballos & Victorio Peak and on down the Rio Grande. Prob a few loads were lost on the trips over the years.

tHE sTONE mONOLITHS SET UP ALONG THE OLD ROAD

RUN UP FROM THE gULF cOAST AND RIGHT INTO THE oRGANS AND OTHER RANGES

MANY HAVE BEEN TOSSED OVER

BUT YES
THERE IS A mARKED TRAIL TO THEM

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Treasminder, please stop typing in all caps.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Join me in a hot cuppa, Rog?? 03:30 here

 

[sdcfia]

Treasminder, please stop typing in all caps.

Yes, that's much easier to read. By the way your signature is mostly all caps too.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Yes, that's much easier to read. By the way your signature is mostly all caps too.

Per our rules and terms....

"Don't "SHOUT" in large type. Use bold, red, or other special type only when necessary. (Exception: birthday greetings, special congratulations, etc.)"

Members signatures is not the issue, using all caps to post threads and replies is....

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

hey Rog: yer coffee is getting cold..

You posted -i ASK THAT A PERSON NAME ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY BELIEVE IS PERFECTLY SANE .

K, Don Jose de La Mancha , course I sometimes have a slight doubt, but then ??

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Heck Rog, you should see my constant corrections on every post I make. sometimes I worry about the peeps that read them in between corrections, but then I figure they are already lost being treasure hunters.

What's the neurological prob ?? Outside of possibly both of us are nuts /

 

[treasminder2]

Kinda personal actually

Time and Rough and tumble living caught up to me is all .


That's the Grace of impermanence ,,, everything changes in time .

The container has far too much abuse to it's moments compared is all .

A Body is like that

none ever last as long as the Soul within .

good thing that .

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Rog, drink yer coffee, freshly made. 04:30 As I have said, only the good go young , so you will be with me on my 150 th birthday.

 

[treasminder2]

On that subject

we notice people discuss quite often where their soul may go after this world .

In contast , not so often is it podered where the Soul may have been before this world .

I once posited : Were all souls created at the exact same epoch , and if so , where was yours while
Moses Stood upon the Mount waving stones and commandments ? "

Now a Verse form The Grateful Deads Song " Eye's of the World "

Verse : Wake up to find out that YOU are the EYE's of the World "

End quote

A Bumper sticker I like reads : " If you are not outraged , you're not paying attention "

Eye's wide shut is this societies greatest insult unto it's self .

The verse points out : wake up, pay attention , see what's going on ,,, and then ,,,, do something GOOD about it .

Now
If the Soul is everlasting spiritual energy ,,,

which came first , the chicken or the egg , routine .

where was your soul

at conception , did it enter then sperm and then the egg

or did it enter the egg first

and wait for the sperm to spark material or biological awakening to become a container for the soul
in this material plane of momentary journey ?


I warn that it is best to be aware , that I have spent much time in seclusion , THINKING

away from others who distract the Inner View and the answers there within .

Understand ?

sounds nutz ,,, does it not

Crazy is just another point of VIEW , the View , the perceptual assimilation , The internalized results of the person .

as opposed to another's VIEW .

Realize that in Western Lineal View and Thought consciousness , the Label of SANE , is placed on the person who
perceives and acts within the confines of lineal parameters .

That is stunting the growth of the Consciousness to that of a seedling .

Make sense why all these Wars ?

why the Greed

we all share this time and space together on this plane ,,

should we not share as equals ?

For one is no greater then another , no soul is larger nor smaller .

just a thought you understand .

 

[treasminder2]

sounds as much true as many of the other theories .

Still

there is the situation of that Bat Quano and a few other artifacts that reveal that some of the repositories pre date
1492

Something i was going to point out about dates incidentally

( GAWD ,, i hate this sites outdated Java Script )

anyway

On a Dig about 1952
At Casa Grande site in Arizona

near an outer wall of the Main Compound ,,,

was unearthed a Sea Shell ,,,,,, sculpted into the square and transit .

Known Knights Templar insignia .

Built in the 1240's

Casa Grande remains a mystery as to who built it .

Theories exist on who and when it was built .

However , I got a Gut feeling it was Templar

and was the H.Q. for their extended expeditions in search of the Ophir depositories .

just a muse to muse upon