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    "Star" Button N.S.T response

    Here is Steve's response from the button.Mike,

    I suspect the button was fashioned from a circular brass one-piece flat button--very common from the mid-18th to early 19th centuries. The points of the star seem a tad too asymmetrical to have been manufactured originally in the star shape. But, nothing is absolute.

    We see a bit of field alteration done during the Civil War generally with silver coins, and occasionally a brass button, to make hat and lapel insignia. Those with a star configuration are usually associated with Texas troops.

    You might check whatever records might be available for the immediate area in which the button was found to see if there were any Texas troops stationed or camped in the area.

    Steve
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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Very nice button. May be military. http://www.ss-sutler.com/insignia.html
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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Insignia is my guess also. The 12th corp used a star, Texas & Mississippi used a star, & so did generals. I have seen other insignia made out of flat buttons. Was there any other civil war relics at the spot where this was found?
    Dirty Mike

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Maybe, lol

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    The link I posted is reproduction but Im sure yours is original. I dont want you get the wrong idea, it was all I could find at this time. Nice find.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Very nice button. May be military. http://www.ss-sutler.com/insignia.html
    The site you listed says "wire attachments" (the same for company letters, hatpins, etc.). This is without a doubt a Button--and it has a Shank, not a wire attachment.

    I have no clue on this one. I've never seen a button like it before.

    If it is a corps badge, it is odd that the shank was retained. My hunch is that this was part of a set of buttons, but I have no idea whether it was civilian or militia.


    Does it look like the button was cut from a typical round shape and made into the star, or does it appear cast that way?



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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    sometimes people would just make things,i have seen all kinds of buttons made from 1/2 dimes ,seated dimes,and spanish reals.... Not that hard to stick a shank on something........

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Hmmm, thanks for the input guys. I'm almost positive it is militia becouse of where we found it. There has been no modern activity other than critter hunters. I'll research a bit more. Thank you

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Quote Originally Posted by 4-H staff
    Hmmm, thanks for the input guys. I'm almost positive it is militia becouse of where we found it. There has been no modern activity other than critter hunters. I'll research a bit more. Thank you
    I understand your logic, but there could easily have been civilian traffic through militia sites in the past. For example, when I hunted CW camps, I found many civilian items--parasol clips, suspender clips, toe taps, flat buttons. All of those could have been used by the troops, but they were not specifically "military pieces."


    I'd love to know what you find out from NST about the piece.
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Ok, I've sent it and will see what happens. You guys have me currious now! LOL Thank you

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    I know it appears to be a button, but can you imagine how hard it would be to button a coat or something with several of those "buttons"? Monty
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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Absolutely Monty I have! I was thinking if anything, it would have been fixed to a hat or shirt near the shoulders. I dont know. I guess we will wait and see What N.S.T says.

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    On the last div hunt there were a few clover insignia dug and then there was one guy who dug a flat button that was cut into a clover.
    Dirty Mike

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    Re: "Star" Button ID Please

    Not sure what it is...but it;s definitely unique and a great find...Congrats!!!
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

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    Re: "Star" Button N.S.T response

    Thanks Steve! staff

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    Re: "Star" Button N.S.T response

    Cool find Mike!

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    Re: "Star" Button N.S.T response

    Hi Mike. I ran across this star during another search and it looked very familiar. I realized it was your post. Im glad you got an ID. http://www.mytreasurespot.com/main/r...,448957,448957

    Hi folks,
    I just Thought I would share this 12th corps Civil war badge/attachment I dug a while back, on a Skirmish spot I located in North Carolina. The "Federal Army Corps" adopted insignia (shown below) and proudly represented them. The 12th, and later the 20th both admirably wore the "star" The insignias were crafted from either buttons or silver coins.
    This button was previously published in American Digger Magazine.
    Thanks for looking!
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

 

 

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