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  1. #1
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    Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    OK so found this metal detecting in central California this summer. from first look I thought it was iron pyrite but it is a silver almost platinum color i have never seen iron pyrite this color before. It also has a mix of gold coloring in the rock. it's dimensions are 5 inches long and about 3 1/2 inches around and weighs a whopping 2.88 pounds. is there anyone on here that is a gemologist or geologist of some sort that can help identify this rock and if so what are we looking at in terms of what it is worth? thanks for looking
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  2. #2
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    man that looks like platinum to me where EXACTLY did you find it
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  3. #3
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Quote Originally Posted by traderoftreasures
    man that looks like platinum to me where EXACTLY did you find it

    well I really don't want to give out the exacts of where it was found just that it was in central to northern California in the mountains. I have never seen platinum in it's rough form before is this what it looks like
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  4. #4
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    4-H will know what it is
    johnnyi

  5. #5
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    yes that is what it looks like. i have a rocks and mineral guide that has a simular nugget even with gold in it like that. i was kidding on the exact location. i knew no one would give that up. please what does it weigh
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  6. #6
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    holy-cannoli.......at 2.88 lbs I hope for you it IS platinum ore
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  7. #7
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Quote Originally Posted by traderoftreasures
    yes that is what it looks like. i have a rocks and mineral guide that has a simular nugget even with gold in it like that. i was kidding on the exact location. i knew no one would give that up. please what does it weigh


    2.88 pounds
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  8. #8
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Galena

  9. #9
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    It looks almost ike Galena with pyrite.
    johnnyi

  10. #10
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    It looks almost ike Galena with pyrite.
    Here's some pyrite-


    http://images.google.com/images?sour...N&hl=en&tab=wi

  11. #11
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    May 2009
    central, Illinois
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    mabye not platinum but i don't know about pyrite or galena not very square, but who am i to know.
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  12. #12
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    Carson City, NV
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    i'm really at a loss maybe it is from outer space how can i get it tested to see what it is?
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  13. #13

    Jul 2006
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    its beautiful whatever it is.

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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Well, I never claimed to be a Geologist but, I certainly have dug my share of native rocks. And to me, It looks like you have a wonderful Galena/Pyrite specimen.~Cubic crystals~ Galena usually develops "cubic crystals" and often forms "Twins.." "Steps" are another common feature on broken crystal faces. Although I have NEVER found a specimen like this It sure looks like Galena. These Mineral's played Havoc on our fore-fathers who had to survive Gold hunting etc... I don't think Platinum is Indigenous to Cali.... .Awesome
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    Platinum

    Native platinum is an exotic mineral specimen and an expensive metal. Unfortunately, well formed crystals of platinum are very rare and the common habit of platinum is nuggets and grains. Pure platinum is unknown of in nature as it usually is alloyed with other metals such as iron, copper, gold, nickel, iridium, palladium, rhodium, ruthenium and osmium. The presence of these other metals tends to lower the density of platinum from a pure metal specific gravity of 21.5 to as low as 14 and very rarely any higher than 19 in natural specimens. Few of these rarer metals form significant deposits on their own and thus platinum becomes the primary ore of many of these metals. The presence of iron can lead to a slight magnetism in platinum nuggets and is a common enough property to be considered diagnostic.
    The element platinum is extremely scarce in most crustal rocks, barely seen as even a trace element in chemical analysis of these rocks. However platinum seems to be much more concentrated in the mantle and can be enriched through magmatic segregation. Platinum's origin in the crust is from ultra-mafic igneous rocks and therefore platinum is associated with minerals common to these rocks such as chromite and olivine. Platinum's most common source however is from placer deposits.

    Over the ages, the platinum became weathered out of the igneous rocks and were tumbled down streams and rivers where the extremely heavy grains and nuggets of platinum collect behind rocks and bends in the rivers and streams. These deposits, called placers,(Places itself?) that form behind the rocks and bends are enriched in heavy grains as lighter material is carried further down stream. The heaviest grains are the nuggets of gold, platinum and/or other heavy minerals.

    The metal platinum is a valuable metal that is gaining in importance. It is typically more expensive by weight than gold, mostly a product of its scarcity. Platinum is very non-reactive and for this reason it is used in chemical reactions as a catalyst. Metallic platinum can facilitate many chemical reactions without becoming altered in the process. It is also used in many anti-pollution devices, most notable is the catalytic converter, and has been given the nick name the "Environmental Metal". Native platinum is the primary ore of platinum, but deposits containing the rare platinum arsenide, sperrylite of the Pyrite Group, have made a huge contribution to the world's limited supply.


    PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS:
    •Color is a white-gray to silver-gray, usually lighter than the platinum color of pure processed platinum.
    •Luster is metallic.
    •Transparency is opaque.
    •Crystal System: Isometric; 4/m bar 3 2/m
    •Crystal Habits include nuggets, grains or flakes, rarely showing cubic forms.
    •Cleavage is absent.
    •Fracture is jagged.
    •Hardness is 4 - 4.5
    •Specific Gravity is 14 - 19+, pure platinum is 21.5 (extremely heavy even for metallic minerals).
    •Streak is steel-gray.
    •Other Characteristics: Does not tarnish, is sometimes weakly magnetic and is ductile, malleable and sectile, meaning it can be pounded into other shapes, stretched into a wire and cut into slices.
    •Associated Minerals include chromite, olivine, enstatite, pyroxene, magnetite and occasionally gold.
    •Notable Occurrences includes Transvaal, South Africa; Ural Mountains, Russia; Columbia and Alaska, USA.
    •Best Field Indicators are color, density, weak magnetism, hardness, associations and ductility.
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  15. #15
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    Feb 2009
    NC
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Awesome rock and ID Galena with pyrite?

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3D40%26um%3D1
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  16. #16
    ca
    Aug 2005
    460

    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Quote Originally Posted by mojjax
    Galena
    Correct ID

  17. #17
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    May 2009
    central, Illinois
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    a man must admit when he's wrong, so here goes........ i was wrong
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  18. #18
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    Jul 2004
    Angels Camp,Ca.
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Arsenopyrite....

  19. #19
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Its pyrite, arseno- or chalco- or some other variation. Structure isn't like galena. And its definately not platinum, as someone has already pointed out.

  20. #20
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    Re: Please help me ID this Rock/Metal nugget

    Here is a photo of Galena from California.


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