1800s tags? they are dog tags !!!!!

[grimroofer]

These tags are listed and illustrated on pp. 57-58 of U. S. Dog License Tags and Related Exonumia. Although no values are given, the author, Dr. Bill Bone, can probably help you with that information. He's very familiar with our hobby and enjoys hearing from anyone who has found tags from the 1800's. I'm sure he'd be interested in these from the Kingdom of Hawaii.



The oldest known Hawaiian tags are dated 1870.



Thanks PBK! It took a while to get there but we finally nailed it.

[traderoftreasures]

look like pole tags. i like that name grimroofer.... i was a roofer once and it sucked

[grimroofer]

what about the crown with the cross on it seems weird that that are dated i just dont know what they were attached to

[chipveres]

I believe these may be mortuary tags, attached to wooden crosses to help identify the deceased.

Chip V.

[romeo-1]

I believe these may be mortuary tags, attached to wooden crosses to help identify the deceased.

Chip V.

I think so too...

[Woodland Detectors]

Now those are cool. Keep detecting that spot. And don't forget to hit the very edges of the lot.

[grimroofer]

i dont know about mortuary tags i dont think anyone is buried there the grave yard is way on the other side and i stay away from there

[BuckleBoy]

I believe these may be mortuary tags, attached to wooden crosses to help identify the deceased.

Chip V.

I agree.

[CRUSADER]

i dont know about mortuary tags i dont think anyone is buried there the grave yard is way on the other side and i stay away from there

so? Doesn't explain anything. You could have found them 100 miles away...

[diggummup]

I may be way off base here but i'm thinking tool check tags for sugar cane knives from one of the plantations. You did find these in Maui correct?

[BuckleBoy]

I may be way off base here but i'm thinking tool check tags for sugar cane knives from one of the plantations. You did find these in Maui correct?

Ahhh. That could make a difference... But just to play devil's advocate here, I've never seen a single tool check tag from the U.S. anywhere that had a year stamped on it.

[Bigcypresshunter]

These are interesting finds. Are those Bishops hats?

[traderoftreasures]

diggin' in the grave yard

[grimroofer]

no i am not digging in a grave yard there is one on the property buy it is 300 yards away i am in an area that they used for gatherings so i am sure they didn't stick anyone in the ground there and yes i am on maui i dont think they are tool tags not with the hat thing on them and i dont think they were ever nailed up to anything there is no indents from a nail around the holes i am lost i need to talk to some locals here

[traderoftreasures]

no i am not digging in a grave yard there is one on the property buy it is 300 yards away i am in an area that they used for gatherings so i am sure they didn't stick anyone in the ground there and yes i am on maui i dont think they are tool tags not with the hat thing on them and i dont think they were ever nailed up to anything there is no indents from a nail around the holes i am lost i need to talk to some locals here

I was just foolin' with it being haloween and all. thats why we're called diggers

[Bigcypresshunter]

Look closely they all have openings on one hole as if to put on and take off. Unless they were cut off.

[grimroofer]

i think it is rotted off on the one someone thought they might be from church owned cloths of uniforms but i dont know why they would be dated

[diggummup]

I have emailed Richard Wong who is a local historian in Honolulu. Hopefully he can add something to this. I was thinking maybe bango tags but the dates don't fit. Still looking.

[grimroofer]

thanks it helps to have the right connections lol ill keep my fingers crossed

[dneyedli@res1.mts.net]

Certainly has to do with something locally. These tags must have been issued nearby as the numbers increase with the years. 1876 has 111, 1880 has 230 and 1885 has 6143. That crown is not familiar to me. Was there a form of monarchy in Hawaii?
Interesting.
Dave.