I am dreaming .. are these for real ?

[CMDiamonddawg]

Hello , Found ,today, on another old ,but newer than most wagon trail . I am not sure, want to check ,because some things are too good to be true. Is the silver a newer,Commemrative , or from colonial time? size 1 & 1/2 " W x1 & 3/8" H *1776* on front Blank on back , silver ,Weight 1/4+ oz. ..How about the copper ,looks like a raised flower or some design in the center. Need some id . Thanks for any help. Looks like a solved mystery ,you guys are Amazing!!! Thank You All ,

[Bigcypresshunter]

The silver bullion looks like a rampant lion with CB or BC on the shield/badge and serial numbers on the bottom. I dont know what it is but can we have something for size in the pic and a clearer pic of the copper may help.

[vayank54]

Kind of hard to tell from the pic but the copper piece looks like it could be a colonial flat button that has been beat on. Can you tell what it says around the hump in the middle? I'm thinking the hump is the shank that has been smashed and the writing is the makers backmark. the silver piece is cool

[Bigcypresshunter]

It appears to be a 1 ounce size if its thicker than the dollar.. Weigh it and see if its silver bullion.

[CMDiamonddawg]

It appears to be a 1 ounce size if its thicker than the dollar.. Weigh it and see if its silver bullion.

Very slightly thinner than the dollar , about 1/4 oz. + Thanks for your help bigcypresshunter

[Bigcypresshunter]

It appears to be a 1 ounce size if its thicker than the dollar.. Weigh it and see if its silver bullion.

Very slightly thinner than the dollar , about 1/4 oz. + Thanks for your help bigcypresshunter

I had a silver buillion that was .999 silver, the same basic rectangle size and came in 1 oz. numbered bars. Maybe its not buillion. I dont know what it is. Im not much help. Maybe metric? How many grams?

[Bigcypresshunter]

It kinda resembles the Anglo Far-East Bullion Company but its not a match. CB maybe the B is for bullion. Weigh it in grams to see what we got. I still think the 1776 is a serial number not a date but the monogram is old style.

[CRUSADER]

It kinda resembles the Anglo Far-East Bullion Company but its not a match. CB maybe the B is for bullion. Weigh it in grams to see what we got. I still think the 1776 is a serial number not a date but the monogram is old style.

Agreed, definately a serial number (might be silver), but my guess is its a medallion (type thing) which was in a presentation pack of uncirculated coins. The letters in the Shield look like GB to me, might help in the research.

The copper item is a squashed button with broken shank.

[IronSpike]

Piece of jewelry 1776 serial number would be nice to have

[CRUSADER]

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I couldn't find the exact one, but this is the type of medallion I was thinking of. The serial number 1776 was part of a limited no. of proof coins, lets say 5000??

[IronSpike]

Yeah most likely you guys got the ID. Awesome find CMDiamonddawg and great number on it

[PBK]

Your "1776" item is a "charge coin" from Gimbel's, or Gimbel Brothers, department store in Philadelphia, PA. Note the "GB" monogram on the rampant lion's shield. 1776 is the account number. Charge coins were used like credit cards. To make a purchase on credit, a customer could present his coin to the clerk, who would then charge the amount to that account. Gimbel's of Philadelphia issued at least three varieties of charge coins, two rectangular and one round. Gimbel's of New York had them, too, but theirs were of a totally different design. I'm not sure just when or how long they were in use, but I believe it was sometime around 1920-40.

Here's another example:



Update: Your variety is listed as #PA 750 T in Ed Dence's A Catalog of Mercantile Stores Charge Coins.

Dence also reports a Gimbel's charge coin from Pittsburgh; but again, of different design.

[IronSpike]

Your "1776" item is a "charge coin" from Gimbel's, or Gimbel Brothers, department store in Philadelphia, PA. Note the "GB" monogram on the rampant lion's shield. 1776 is the account number. Charge coins were used like credit cards. To make a purchase on credit, a customer could present his coin to the clerk, who would then charge the amount to that account. Gimbel's of Philadelphia issued at least three varieties of charge coins, two rectangular and one round. Gimbel's of New York had them, too, but theirs were of a totally different design. I'm not sure just when or how long they were in use, but I believe it was sometime around 1920-40.

Great ID PBK Account number 1776 is Awesome

[72cheyenne]

That was a smokin' ID.

[CMDiamonddawg]

Many Thanks Crusader

It kinda resembles the Anglo Far-East Bullion Company but its not a match. CB maybe the B is for bullion. Weigh it in grams to see what we got. I still think the 1776 is a serial number not a date but the monogram is old style.

Agreed, definately a serial number (might be silver), but my guess is its a medallion (type thing) which was in a presentation pack of uncirculated coins. The letters in the Shield look like GB to me, might help in the research.

The copper item is a squashed button with broken shank.

[CMDiamonddawg]

Many Thanks bigcypresshunter

It appears to be a 1 ounce size if its thicker than the dollar.. Weigh it and see if its silver bullion.

[CMDiamonddawg]

Your "1776" item is a "charge coin" from Gimbel's, or Gimbel Brothers, department store in Philadelphia, PA. Note the "GB" monogram on the rampant lion's shield. 1776 is the account number. Charge coins were used like credit cards. To make a purchase on credit, a customer could present his coin to the clerk, who would then charge the amount to that account. Gimbel's of Philadelphia issued at least three varieties of charge coins, two rectangular and one round. Gimbel's of New York had them, too, but theirs were of a totally different design. I'm not sure just when or how long they were in use, but I believe it was sometime around 1920-40.

Here's another example:




Update: Your variety is listed as #PA 750 T in Ed Dence's A Catalog of Mercantile Stores Charge Coins.

Dence also reports a Gimbel's charge coin from Pittsburgh; but again, of different design.

Nailed it!! Many Thanks PBK

[PBK]

Any time, CMD!

[CRUSADER]

Your "1776" item is a "charge coin" from Gimbel's, or Gimbel Brothers, department store in Philadelphia, PA. Note the "GB" monogram on the rampant lion's shield. 1776 is the account number. Charge coins were used like credit cards. To make a purchase on credit, a customer could present his coin to the clerk, who would then charge the amount to that account. Gimbel's of Philadelphia issued at least three varieties of charge coins, two rectangular and one round. Gimbel's of New York had them, too, but theirs were of a totally different design. I'm not sure just when or how long they were in use, but I believe it was sometime around 1920-40.

Here's another example:




Update: Your variety is listed as #PA 750 T in Ed Dence's A Catalog of Mercantile Stores Charge Coins.

Dence also reports a Gimbel's charge coin from Pittsburgh; but again, of different design.

Nice ID, would have never guessed that one. One thought comes to mind, what if I found one & tried to use it, I assume they checked ID as well

[Bigcypresshunter]

Well someone lost their charge card. Great ID. I would never find it googling CB lol. Couldnt see the little picture. Is it silver?