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  1. #1
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    Musket ball or bullet?

    Found on 'flat track trail', which is not so flat anymore Thought I would get a quick scan in on the limited area and found this interesting lead bullet. Shaped almost like a button

    Also found rock with pyrite or gold. How do you test?

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Rub it on unglazed porcelain tile . black streak is pyrite, yellow streak is gold.
    Or hydrochloric acid, if its gold acid will not effect it.

    this pic is of pyrite in quartz .
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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by taz42o
    Rub it on unglazed porcelain tile . black streak is pyrite, yellow streak is gold.
    Or hydrochloric acid, if its gold acid will not effect it.

    this pic is of pyrite in quartz .
    Thanks taz420. Have a testing kit. Just poor solution on it or bust rock to get specs?

    Any truth to the old saying: "Near fools gold is real gold"?

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Tested with gold solution kit. No color reaction

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    I have never used kit so not much help there.
    Steak test is simplest and will give definite gold or pyrite answer.

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by taz42o
    I have never used kit so not much help there.
    Steak test is simplest and will give definite gold or pyrite answer.
    Kind of hard to streak test with specimen in the quartz. I'll find my small hammer and bust rocks

    Maybe the old saying goes like: "Near pyrite is fool nearby".

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    for what its worth - it looks like gold.

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by randazzo1
    for what its worth - it looks like gold.
    Ahhh I like that

    What about the lead? Is it a musket ball?

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Who cares about lead when we are talking GOLD here.
    Doesn't look like a bullet to me. But I'm not a expert.

    Tim
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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSpike
    Found on 'flat track trail', which is not so flat anymore Thought I would get a quick scan in on the limited area and found this interesting lead bullet. Shaped almost like a button

    Also found rock with pyrite or gold. How do you test?

    That's a wonderfull..







    Specimen of quartz and pyrite
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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by doublet2a
    Who cares about lead when we are talking GOLD here.
    Doesn't look like a bullet to me. But I'm not a expert.

    Tim
    The other rock also very heavy and has streaks/specs. Getting it out of the quartz probably wouldn't produce much Anyway, thought I would share those last minute finds from this location and still not 100% sure the lead is a musket ball

    Quote Originally Posted by 4-H
    Quote Originally Posted by IronSpike
    Found on 'flat track trail', which is not so flat anymore Thought I would get a quick scan in on the limited area and found this interesting lead bullet. Shaped almost like a button

    Also found rock with pyrite or gold. How do you test?

    That's a wonderfull..







    Specimen of quartz and pyrite
    Thanks Mike How do you determine? The way it's in the quartz?
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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    I'm no expert on the gold part but the rock looks like Pyrite we used to get when I worked at a rock quarry. I could be wrong on that though. Look around the edge of the lead thing to see if there is any iron wire if so it's a lead seal. I've dug several from the late 1800's shaped like that. If there's no wire then I'd say it's a fired round ball

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by vayank54
    I'm no expert on the gold part but the rock looks like Pyrite we used to get when I worked at a rock quarry. I could be wrong on that though. Look around the edge of the lead thing to see if there is any iron wire if so it's a lead seal. I've dug several from the late 1800's shaped like that. If there's no wire then I'd say it's a fired round ball
    Thanks vayank54 No wires in the lead. I'll green check as fired musket ball I'm no expert on the gold either and very well could be pyrite.

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Your'e welcome. I hope you find out something on the rock.

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    I do believe this is gold in quartz

    Back out this morning to find more

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Nice pics Spike. Looks like you're hunting spot is going to be gone soon!!

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelangelo
    Nice pics Spike. Looks like you're hunting spot is going to be gone soon!!
    Yeah the gold will be buried forever but I can still get on my bicycle and ride this trail

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Dues the quartz signal with a metal detector?

    Does Pyrite signal with a metal detector?
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Dues the quartz signal with a metal detector?

    Does Pyrite signal with a metal detector?
    No signal from metal detector. Just an interesting looking quartz picked up in the dark

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    Re: Musket ball or bullet?

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSpike
    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Dues the quartz signal with a metal detector?

    Does Pyrite signal with a metal detector?
    No signal from metal detector. Just an interesting looking quartz picked up in the dark
    I would think gold would be picked up by a sensitive metal detector. Turn off all discrimination. If you have a detector that can pick up a thin gold chain, it should pick up this, if its gold.

    As far as the test solution, you can only expect to test metal with a test solution. I suggest try to to determine if it is in fact even metal.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

 

 
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