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  1. #1
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    Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    Good Evenin' Today's hunt was nice because the weather was perfect. We went to an area between a cemetery and CW training camp. Below are a few of the knowns & unknows. The most interesting pieces are the COPPER STRAPS; could these have gone across the chest to hold a drum or flag staff? The REED PLATE is marked F#, but I don't know if it came from an accordian or some type of calliope. It was located only feet from the cemetery entrance. The 2 iron domes, which look like they could be a 'mini bra for Brunhilda,' lol were found together. I am totally clueless on these. All help, thoughts, and ideas are appreciated. Breezie
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  2. #2
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rando
    Thing with wires is a "buzzer' of some sort.
    Any clue on the date?
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  3. #3
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    Dec 2008
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    The copper pieces look like gaskets.

  4. #4
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    Quote Originally Posted by taz42o
    The copper pieces look like gaskets.
    Ah bunch of new goodies! The second item is definitely a copper manifold head gasket section broke off. Ive replaced them but dont remember from what.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  5. #5
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    The second item is definitely a copper manifold head gasket section broke off. Ive replaced them but dont remember from what.
    BCH, Were these manifold head gaskets all copper or did they have a pasteboard on the back or sandwiched inside?
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  6. #6
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBreeze426
    The second item is definitely a copper manifold head gasket section broke off. Ive replaced them but dont remember from what.
    BCH, Were these manifold head gaskets all copper or did they have a pasteboard on the back or sandwiched inside?
    Im referring only to the second pic. Some were solid copper. Im looking for a pic. It may be from a 6 cylinder. I can see the little bent tab to help hold it in place. You probably have the car this goes on but I cant find a good pic of one in copper.Name:  gasket.jpg
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  7. #7
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    The reed valve looks like from a pump organ. We had a good discussion on these here. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,269668.0.html
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  8. #8
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    Im referring only to the second pic. Some were solid copper. Im looking for a pic. It may be from a 6 cylinder. I can see the little bent tab to help hold it in place. You probably have the car this goes on but I cant find a good pic of one in copper.
    [b]I'm not so sure it is a head gasket. Check out the back view, and let me know if you think. TYPO: "Slit" not "Slip" on the photo. Thanks for the link to the Reed Organ. The reed on accordians look almost the same to me. Breezie[b]

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  9. #9
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    I cant say for 100 percent but it looks like a copper cylinder head manifold gasket to me. Yes the bent tab or lip appears to be to hold it in place until the mechanic can insert the bolts as you use no sealant with copper head gaskets.. They were/are made of copper to take the high heat. The only part is that I dont remember seeing a lip like yours has. Im sure a mechanic will chime in and help.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  10. #10
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    South Florida
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    Quote Originally Posted by SWR
    After seeing the closeup, i retract my door strike guess and cheerfully change it to.....gasket

    It does kinda look like a strike with the bent up piece. But Im thinking gasket.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  11. #11
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    I just sent the pics to a buddy of mine who builds classic cars. He takes them from barn finds into show cars. We'll add his opinion in the hat. Any thoughts on the buzzer looking thingie?
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  12. #12
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    I was going to say gaskets on the copper pieces too. On the bullets. the first one could be a 3 ring mini or a Williams cleaner with the pedestal gone. The 2nd is an Enfield. could have a letter or number in the base and the 3rd looks like a confederate Gardner. If a sharps has a cavity it will be a small shallow one, a gardner will have a good sized deep cavity.

  13. #13
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    I dont think the first item is a gasket. The edges are folded and may be soldered for strength possibly for a strap of some kind. Its probably folded over leather and not cardboard. Suspenders?
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  14. #14
    pr
    Oct 2008
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    I say gasket also, intake or exhaust maybe, instead of buzzer it may be a temperature gauge off an engine

  15. #15
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    Jan 2008
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    im thinking the rusty thing with the coiled copper in it,
    is an old thermo-coupler.
    most likely from a steam/boiler or furnace.
    orrrrrrrrrrr, manual sending unit for oil pressure or engine temp from an older engine.

  16. #16
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    i agree that it may be a thermostat, maybe even for an old car, maybe the same one the exhaust manifold gasket came from.
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  17. #17
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    couldn't have been for electricity because it would not work.
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  18. #18
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    monty

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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    I agree about the manifold gasket. Some were solid copper but some were sandwiched with some kind of cardboard or fiber looking parts, perhaps asbestos? Looks like someone where you hunt did a lot of work on cars at times. Monty
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  19. #19
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rando
    Quote Originally Posted by traderoftreasures
    couldn't have been for electricity because it would not work.
    that is incorrect.
    It is a two part normally open circuit that was joined when the coils were touching, this is accomplished by pushing it.
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  20. #20
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    Re: Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

    I dont see why a door bell switch would have coils when a simple contact would do.

 

 
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