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  1. #1
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    Nov 2009
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    Odd Brass Object - New photos

    I found this piece of brass/bronze/copper in an old field.

    Dimensions are:
    34mm tall
    18mm wide
    15mm deep

    There is a 5mm thick piece of wood running the legnth of the object.

    I have no idea what this is or was. Any ideas?

    Thank you,
    Still Waters
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    Re: Odd Brass Object

    Strange and cool... the bottom of it looks broken, what does the other end look like?

    I see the images of two people... man and woman?

    The images make me believe it's orientation is up and down, not on it's side... possibly a finial?

    I have no idea.



  3. #3
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    Re: Odd Brass Object

    I'm thinking wooden spoon or fork or knife with the bass as some sort of decoration, kinda like fancy china wear..

    then again i have no CLUE...

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    Re: Odd Brass Object

    It it square? I'm assuming by your measurements it's kinda square(ish). Do you think it's a grip for a dipping pen? Maybe there was a wooden shaft and the nib was on the other side?


  5. #5
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    Nov 2009
    57

    Re: Odd Brass Object

    It is a very strange object. I forgot to weigh it, and Ill do so here. It weighs in at 47 grams, so it seems to be too heavy to have been a piece of silverware. I also see the images of two people which is why I focused the picures on them. I can take additional photos if you like, just let me know what you want to see.

    Thank you again for your input,
    Still Waters

  6. #6
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    Re: Odd Brass Object

    I sure looks like a piece of a broken, decorated spoon handle--but not being made of pewter I don't know...




    Is the piece Hollow? (I take it that you mean that there is a wooden dowel inside of it?) Can I see a photo of just one of the ends of it? Does it appear to be broken on both ends or just one?
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  7. #7
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    Nov 2009
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    Re: Odd Brass Object

    Here are some photos of different angles. The wooden dowel piece runs the legnth more or less. The hole appears to be pretty uniform through the middle of the object. Im still clueless - what could it be?
    Still Waters
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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    My WAG is - the runner from a parasol.

    An example here
    http://www.victoriana.com/archive/parasol.html

    Mike

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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    Still waters, is the top solid (no opening)??
    johnnyi

  10. #10
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    Jan 2009
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    Re: Odd Brass Object

    Quote Originally Posted by Still Waters
    Here are some photos of different angles. The wooden dowel piece runs the legnth more or less. The hole appears to be pretty uniform through the middle of the object. Im still clueless - what could it be?
    Still Waters

    please....how do you put those pictures together.
    i have tried and tried in 'paint'
    some one helped me with resize and that was most appreciated.
    now if i can take one more step....


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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    i going to guess a ferrule for a magnifying glass or carving set

  12. #12
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    Nov 2009
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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    Still waters, is the top solid (no opening)??
    The hole runs the legnth of the object. I can slide the dowel in or out of both ends. I tried to get a photo showing the entire hole but it did not show up well.


    Quote Originally Posted by intimer
    Quote Originally Posted by Still Waters
    Here are some photos of different angles. The wooden dowel piece runs the legnth more or less. The hole appears to be pretty uniform through the middle of the object. Im still clueless - what could it be?
    Still Waters

    please....how do you put those pictures together.
    i have tried and tried in 'paint'
    some one helped me with resize and that was most appreciated.
    now if i can take one more step....

    I actually did make that collage with paint. All you need is a lot of windows open at once and a bit of patience. Open a window with paint first. You will want to make the wite area you work with fairly large so you can paste pictures into it. Then open a second window with paint of the first picture you want to copy in. Use the area select option, make the box around what you want to copy, and then select the copy option from the edit menu. Then go to the first window and paste the picture in. Then repeat with more photos and move them around to make your collage. Hope this helps.


    Still Waters

  13. #13
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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    [quote=Still Waters ]
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    Still waters, is the top solid (no opening)??
    The hole runs the legnth of the object. I can slide the dowel in or out of both ends. I tried to get a photo showing the entire hole but it did not show up well.


    [quote=intimer ]

    So the parasol is a possibility ?

    Mike





  14. #14
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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    Thank You so much Still Waters! Great instructions. When I copied to the new paint window it superimposed over the previous one. Wow, I thought my problems were back. But I was able to move it around the page. Resizing first was the balm, and making a collage is possible. I put my first effort as the desktop. Man I hope to get a brownie point for that....

    So anyway this had been bugging me for so long. Now I've progressed another step!!!!

    Thanks, Really.

  15. #15
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    Nov 2009
    57

    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    [quote=trikikiwi ]
    [quote=Still Waters ]
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    Still waters, is the top solid (no opening)??
    The hole runs the legnth of the object. I can slide the dowel in or out of both ends. I tried to get a photo showing the entire hole but it did not show up well.


    Quote Originally Posted by intimer

    So the parasol is a possibility ?

    Mike




    I am not really sure how this would fit into a parasol. Also, wouldnt this be a bit too masculine for such an object?


    Quote Originally Posted by intimer
    Thank You so much Still Waters! Great instructions. When I copied to the new paint window it superimposed over the previous one. Wow, I thought my problems were back. But I was able to move it around the page. Resizing first was the balm, and making a collage is possible. I put my first effort as the desktop. Man I hope to get a brownie point for that....

    So anyway this had been bugging me for so long. Now I've progressed another step!!!!

    Thanks, Really.
    Glad it helped. Noone knows everything, but we all know something.


    Still Waters

  16. #16
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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    ferrule from an antique fork?
    picture shows pearl but wood would be possible.
    i really don't think this is it! just a wag.
    hey, what is a 'tag'.

    oh, yes 'still waters' i can admit the brain is still rattling---it ain't full!
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  17. #17
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    Nov 2009
    57

    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    Bumping this one up. Any ideas?
    Still Waters

  18. #18
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    Jan 2009
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    Re: Odd Brass Object

    Quote Originally Posted by Pull_tab_mike
    I'm thinking wooden spoon or fork or knife with the bass as some sort of decoration, kinda like fancy china wear..

    then again i have no CLUE...
    sorry i guessed utensil after pull-tab-mike

    the item looks really old. the center hole is off-center maybe hand made. maybe predate silverware...ha ha!
    i mean because of the wood dowel thingy. seems like if it were metal on one end the tang or 'wood' piece would be metal.
    any chance a ferule letter opener, magnifying glass handle or salad set, something else wood on both ends.

    or just some decorative piece.
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  19. #19
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    Nov 2009
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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    Those are definatly good possabilities Intimer. Never seen anything like those in the photo. I agree this looks old, very early, but there is just nothing to compare it to. Frustrating, very frustrating.
    Still Waters

  20. #20
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    Re: Odd Brass Object - New photos

    I am going to go out on a limb and make a guess that it is an old pointer of some sort. Possibly used by a professor, or a clergyman.

    One possibility is a Torah pointer, used to read from ancient scrolls. . These tend to be handed down for many generations, and some date back to the Romans.

    Just a guess...

 

 
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