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    Brass eagles?

    Found these at a field site last week.
    Help is appreciated. TIA Merf
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
    Wow!That would be cool!They sure were patriotic back in the day,Eagles on everything!
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Great finds if that's what they are.

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Way back a long time ago, before there was electricity in most homes. They used natural gas to light their homes. And the 2nd. and 3rd. pics look like the brackets that held the gas line away from the walls.........NGE
    Exposure to the Son prevents burning

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    The first item look most like a flag pole topper, and I agree on the second as being part of a sword hilt guard.

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Merf, can we see a pic of the back of the second piece?
    johnnyi

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    These look like 1800's style of eagle artwork.
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    Merf, can we see a pic of the back of the second piece?





    John-----The pics show the fronts and backs of 2 items.

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
    ditto looking now......
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    This is an example of what Im looking for/at using google images"brass eagle sword hilt cross-guard"
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    first one maybe a weather vane topper

    if the ball of the first one had an attachment it could be one of those ice dam breaker thing on roof edges.
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
    Absolutely!


    My advice to you Merf, is to get a free account and post this photo on the international sword forum. Someone there will know immediately whether it is or isn't a sword hilt--and if it is, they will know the date range and perhaps even manufacturer.


    http://www.swordforum.com/



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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!
    johnnyi

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
    Absolutely!


    My advice to you Merf, is to get a free account and post this photo on the international sword forum. Someone there will know immediately whether it is or isn't a sword hilt--and if it is, they will know the date range and perhaps even manufacturer.


    http://www.swordforum.com/



    Best Wishes,



    Buckles







    Thanks Buckles-----I will do that

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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by 72cheyenne
    The first item look most like a flag pole topper, and I agree on the second as being part of a sword hilt guard.







    I think that may be the answer Cheyenne-- -Here is a pic of the bottom of the ball.
    Looks like the fastening point.
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!






    Thanks Johnny
    I found a few flat buttons and a couple of CW buttons in that part of the county.
    Not much else as far as brass relics.
    I found this French coin [I think] made into a button in the same general area.
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Merf
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!

    Thats cool!!!Looks like like an improvised cuff link!!




    Thanks Johnny
    I found a few flat buttons and a couple of CW buttons in that part of the county.
    Not much else as far as brass relics.
    I found this French coin [I think] made into a button in the same general area.
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  19. #19
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    Re: Brass eagles?

    Thanks to all for the replies.
    I took Buckles advice and posted pics on the sword forum and got this response from one of the moderators. I guess the piece will remain a mystery.




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    Hi Terry,

    Welcome to Sword Forum International

    Is this ferrous, as in a magnet will stick?

    I'm immediately reminded of a favorite harpy type I have files of but what is pictured in your attachments doesn't immediately say sword hilt to me.

    Cheers

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