Found this button today and would like to enlist some help in identifying the age and type. I tried to outline what detail I could see on the front of the button.
Backmark reads STRONG GILT
24mm in diameter
4.1 grams in weight
Tis could possibly be an official (diplomatic button) but it's hard to tell. This one would be a good cndidate for peroxide for an houtr or two and a q-tip afterwards.
Tis could possibly be an official (diplomatic button) but it's hard to tell. This one would be a good cndidate for peroxide for an houtr or two and a q-tip afterwards.
Peroxide has given me mixed results before. i am tempted to try olive oil, but I have never done that method before. I am open to further suggestions on cleaning, as the photo is taken with minimal cleaning.
Still Waters
Tis could possibly be an official (diplomatic button) but it's hard to tell. This one would be a good cndidate for peroxide for an houtr or two and a q-tip afterwards.
I think I might have found a possibility in the Albert book in the Official and Deplomatic Service section:
OD5 US Official 1-piece
A. The device, an eagle facing right, the motto E PLURIBUS UNUM and 17 stars with ravs above, a small anchor on shield. "Strong/Gilt" rm; 25 mm. RV 75
B. Similar device without anchor on shield. "Strong/Gilt" rm; 25 mm. RV 75.
Tis could possibly be an official (diplomatic button) but it's hard to tell. This one would be a good cndidate for peroxide for an houtr or two and a q-tip afterwards.
I think I might have found a possibility in the Albert book in the Official and Deplomatic Service section:
OD5 US Official 1-piece
A. The device, an eagle facing right, the motto E PLURIBUS UNUM and 17 stars with ravs above, a small anchor on shield. "Strong/Gilt" rm; 25 mm. RV 75
B. Similar device without anchor on shield. "Strong/Gilt" rm; 25 mm. RV 75.
Wow, too cool. I have never even thought I would dig one of these, but its pretty cool to know I have one now. The only other question I have is approxamitly what dates were they producing this particular button?
I haven't looked but I'm thinking diplomatic button too. It's an early button for sure. Have you tried a 50/50 mix of lemon juice and water? That might help but you will have to watch it and not leave it in to long. Also Aluminum jelly might work on that to. I'm not sure as I haven't used aluminum jelly that much Buckleboy could probably tell you though.
Aluminum jelly will only work wonders on a button if there is gilding left. It doesn't look like there is any gilding left on this one--so I would suggest the "toothpick method" in my post below. I use wooden shish kebab skewers, since they are pointed, and I can use them to remove the crud carefully. I generally clean the high points in the design, so there is contrast between the high points and the background.
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I hate to be nit picky, but the description says eagle facing right, but it appears that the eagle in question is facing left. A different variety perhaps?
Tis could possibly be an official (diplomatic button) but it's hard to tell. This one would be a good cndidate for peroxide for an houtr or two and a q-tip afterwards.
Peroxide has given me mixed results before. i am tempted to try olive oil, but I have never done that method before. I am open to further suggestions on cleaning, as the photo is taken with minimal cleaning.
Still Waters
Firstly lets work out what it is & how rare it is. When you're happy its not a $1000 button then you can experiment (IMO).
This button looks like it could easily lose detail via cleaning as there is not much left there already.
I think the 50/50 Lemon Juice option (short period), is a good starting point. Its not too harsh & you can if need be try other options after cleaning & rinsing the juice off. If you go with olive oil (never been a fan of this), it limits your options after soaking.
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I hate to be nit picky, but the description says eagle facing right, but it appears that the eagle in question is facing left. A different variety perhaps?
Good point! I just double checked and the description does say that but I think I was concentrating on the picture associated and I missed it. Here are the pics of OD5 A & B:
I hate to be nit picky, but the description says eagle facing right, but it appears that the eagle in question is facing left. A different variety perhaps?
Good point! I just double checked and the description does say that but I think I was concentrating on the picture associated and I missed it. Here are the pics of OD5 A & B:
I may have mixed up my lefts and my rights in the description. The pictures here look very close to what I am seeing on the button.
bio - Thanks for including that photo. I do not think it is quite mine, but it is definatly close. The ones Bramble posted a photo are closer as the eagle takes up nearly the entire button.
Crusader - Thanks for the lemon juice suggestion. I have never heard of or tried this but its worth a go. Might try it on a similar button and see how it works.
If you want to try something a little less harsh than lemon juice, I have had real good success lately with simmering stuff in diet coke. It's a dilute phosphoric acid and I haven't hurt anything yet. Can't say the same with lemon juice. If you want to take it real slow, just use a Q-tip and diet coke.
Daryl
The only way to really understand something is to play with it.
the book does not say. i can only guess. and although they appear to be in the photo's, i would think that they are 2 piece. but any education on this matter is welcome for i am a idiot for now....
the book does not say. i can only guess. and although they appear to be in the photo's, i would think that they are 2 piece. but any education on this matter is welcome for i am a idiot for now....
No,more of an "idiot",than me!
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