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  1. #1
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    Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    Found in the upstate NY region , can some help identify this button , and period . Happy holidays to you all , BAh humbug , Just give my Egg Nog
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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    WoW .. That is a neat button! It looks like an 1800's pictorial button depicting a plow, an anvil, and a couple of blacksmiths or plow makers. Can't make out the backmark, though.
    "Wherever I go .. That's where I'll be!"

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    It does look the figure to the right is bending over putting something on a anvil , the one in the middle looks to be an observer , and the figure to the left may be striking or taking a closer look at something something , Should i put olive oil on the reverse , to see if i can bring any detail out in the lettering , or is it best left alone , any cleaning tips ? then i will post a clear reverse photo so we can identify this fantastic button , But then again to the left it looks like a plow , all I can say the area has had both English, colonial , and French activity
    Thank you

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    To clean, I find Scrubbing Bubbles seems to work pretty well, as does some warm peroxide. .. either, followed by a dab of olive oil or mineral oil. (do not submerge in the oil, but rather wipe just a tiny bit over the surface). I am sure others will come forth with their cleaning methods as well, but this is what works for me. I try to shy away from lemon juice unless I make real sure that you neutralize the acid afterward.
    "Wherever I go .. That's where I'll be!"

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
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    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    No idea what it is, although almost looks like plow handles on the left side. It is not colonial by any means, most likely a 1840's or later button.
    Also, looks like it did get cleaned already and just needs some touching up on the cleaning.

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    Maybe something like this?

    http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...olden-age-gilt



    Great 1830's farming theme golden age gilt button

    Sold Date: 06/30/2007
    Channel: Online Auction
    Source: eBay
    Category: Textiles, Clothing & Accessories

    Large 23mm example with a sheaf of wheat and plow farm design button with a rare back mark of " W W Extra Rich Superfine " which stands for the makers Wadhams and Webster.

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    Quote Originally Posted by Bramblefind
    Maybe something like this?

    http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...olden-age-gilt



    Great 1830's farming theme golden age gilt button

    Sold Date: 06/30/2007
    Channel: Online Auction
    Source: eBay
    Category: Textiles, Clothing & Accessories

    Large 23mm example with a sheaf of wheat and plow farm design button with a rare back mark of " W W Extra Rich Superfine " which stands for the makers Wadhams and Webster.
    Impressive ID .. You nailed it!
    "Wherever I go .. That's where I'll be!"

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    Quote Originally Posted by Bramblefind
    Maybe something like this?

    http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...olden-age-gilt



    Great 1830's farming theme golden age gilt button

    Sold Date: 06/30/2007
    Channel: Online Auction
    Source: eBay
    Category: Textiles, Clothing & Accessories

    Large 23mm example with a sheaf of wheat and plow farm design button with a rare back mark of " W W Extra Rich Superfine " which stands for the makers Wadhams and Webster.
    Spot on Bramblefind Fantastic ID

    Mike

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    Quote Originally Posted by Bramblefind
    Maybe something like this?


    Great 1830's farming theme golden age gilt button

    Sold Date: 06/30/2007
    Channel: Online Auction
    Source: eBay
    Category: Textiles, Clothing & Accessories

    Large 23mm example with a sheaf of wheat and plow farm design button with a rare back mark of " W W Extra Rich Superfine " which stands for the makers Wadhams and Webster.
    Great match Bramblefind. Same backmark. I see the EXTRA FINE. It may be related to Grange Patrons of Husbandry. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,244194.0.html
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    That was an interesting link Bigcypress. Thanks all

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    007
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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    That is mighty fine work Bramblefind , and thanks to all of you out there for your help , cannot wait until spring

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    Re: Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it

    The backmark of your button is *W* EXTRA RICH *W*/SUPERFINE...... Wadhams, Webster & Company Wolcottville, CT, now called Torrington.
    1838-1846 for manufacturer period.

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Here is the exact button that I found today, I didnt have time to clean it yet. <p>Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it -2-28-12-button1.jpg<p>Button that stumps even me , what the heck is it -2-28-12_button_find_back.jpg

 

 

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