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  1. #1
    us
    Aug 2008
    Herndon, VA - Kill Devil Hills, NC
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    Need help identifying these coins / pins

    I've had these for many years but never attempted to identify them beyond the obvious. All were found in the Fredericksburg area in CW camps or home sites. The one looks like a Spanish treasure coin but it was found at a spot that had a verly early house (circa 1730), a revolutionary camp (I found most of a British Cartridge Box Plate), and major Union winter encampment. Not sure what to make of it being found inland?? All thought's and ID's appreciated.
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    side 1 coin 2
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    side 2 coin 2
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    Side 1 coin 3
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  2. #2

    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins



    Iron Patch...is gunna love those nice finds

    SS

  3. #3

    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    first looks like 1757

    The Cob must be 1600s
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  4. #4
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    #1 is a bit hard to make out .

    #2 is a spanish silver hand cut and punched "cob" type coin --thus its a older type than the later era machine made types

    #3 last coin --the holed one--- is a "machine made" type spanish 1781 --1/2 real coin from the mexico city mint --the assayers are FF

    note ---spanish money was commonly used in early america and was legal tender money till about mid 1830 's in the usa

  5. #5

    Sep 2007
    Dirtyville
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    Iron Patch...is gunna love those nice finds

    SS

    Yes Sir! Cobs seem to love my coil and I love them back. I dig an average of one per year which destroys everyone I know anywhere close to me. So I have been very lucky! It's for the most part the only really old silver we dig here.
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  6. #6

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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER


    The Cob must be 1600s

    Probably a good bet. My newest is 1707.
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  7. #7

    Oct 2004
    N. San Diego area (Pic of my two best 'finds')
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    What is the dia (mm) and weight (g) of coins one and two; or put a modern US coin next to them and retake the pics. Thanks.

  8. #8

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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    What is the dia (mm) and weight (g) of coins one and two; or put a modern US coin next to them and retake the pics. Thanks.

    I'd say... 1R, 1R, Half real but we'll see. The first one is hard to tell when just making a quick guess.
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  9. #9
    us
    Aug 2008
    Herndon, VA - Kill Devil Hills, NC
    Tesoro - Bandito II
    148

    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    What is the dia (mm) and weight (g) of coins one and two; or put a modern US coin next to them and retake the pics. Thanks.
    I don't have a scale to get the weight but the sizes are approximately that of a US Roosevelt Dime or smaller.

  10. #10
    us
    Aug 2008
    Herndon, VA - Kill Devil Hills, NC
    Tesoro - Bandito II
    148

    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER


    The Cob must be 1600s

    Probably a good bet. My newest is 1707.
    All - thanks for the info. I knew you could help out. Now I have something to put on the folder when I seal them up.

  11. #11
    us
    Aug 2008
    Herndon, VA - Kill Devil Hills, NC
    Tesoro - Bandito II
    148

    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    Iron Patch...is gunna love those nice finds

    SS

    Yes Sir! Cobs seem to love my coil and I love them back. I dig an average of one per year which destroys everyone I know anywhere close to me. So I have been very lucky! It's for the most part the only really old silver we dig here.
    Check out your threads in the Best finds section (Displays and Best condition). I posted in both places.

  12. #12

    Oct 2004
    N. San Diego area (Pic of my two best 'finds')
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    They all being the size of a dime sounds like all are 1/2 reales.

  13. #13

    Oct 2004
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    I agree with Cru on the first coin's date 1757. Looks like a Fernando VI 1/2 real. The REVERSE legend would read: VTRA QUE VNUM M (date) M. Some of these letters are apparent on the coin. But the obverse doesn't match the reverse; interesting.

  14. #14

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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    They all being the size of a dime sounds like all are 1/2 reales.

    I'd be very surprised if the cob is a half and not a 1 real by the looks of it.
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  15. #15

    Oct 2004
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Would be easy to tell on the first coin: 1/2R should be 16mm and 1.69 grams; 1R should be 18mm and 3.38 grams.
    Dime is 17.9 mm so both 1/2 and 1 are smaller than dime.

  16. #16
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    Dec 2004
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    They all being the size of a dime sounds like all are 1/2 reales.
    I agree
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  17. #17

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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins


    If my cobs mean anything by comparison the half reals are a touch smaller, and the 1 reals a bit bigger. So just being about a dime in size doesn't mean enough. Also, my half reals design takes up much more of teh coin than the one above. That's why it looks like a 1R to me.
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  18. #18
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    We really need something for size comparison but is this a half Reale? Looks like the second cob. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...776#msg2158776

    Dig-Dug says they are smaller than a dime.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  19. #19

    Oct 2004
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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    A fast way to tell is to weigh it based on the weighs I cited above.
    The diameter of a cob is less meaningful in determining its denomination.

  20. #20

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    Re: Need help identifying these coins / pins

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    We really need something for size comparison but is this a half Reale? Looks like the second cob. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...776#msg2158776

    Dig-Dug says they are smaller than a dime.

    Well if smaller than half makes sense. The style of mine are a little different, date early 1700s.
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