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    Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    Thanks a bunch!
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    monty

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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    What's the front look like and general description of the historiy of where you found it? Monty
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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monty
    What's the front look like and general description of the historiy of where you found it? Monty
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    “It is best as one grows older to strip oneself of possessions, to shed oneself downward like a tree, to be almost wholly earth before one dies.”

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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    That is awesome!!

    Maybe I or someone else here can find some info on that name...

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    Just curious, did you find that in Albemarle? It's my home county.. If so, maybe we should go detecting next time I blow through town. The rosette on my profile pic was found in Albemarle...

    Nate

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    stefen

    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    Whoever the peron is...he was a carpenter by trade and obviously proud of it...I see a plane, saw, square, and the like...

    These tools are from the mid to late 1800...

    There's the clue for the period...

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    monty

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    Those are Masonic tools, especially the square and the compasses. Apparently a member of Free Masonry. Monty
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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    Do we think the name is "Adam Rossbach"? I found a man by that name in Newark, NJ b. ~ 1853 who had an occupation as "Japanner".

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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    It looks like Adam Bofsbach or Rofsbach or Roßbach.

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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    The tools go back almost to Roman times.

    The clue is the use of the long 's' short 's' for double 's.' (fs not ss). It is also not the Germanic double 's' (ß).

    You really won't see that form of double 's' much past 1800. The engraving style is also right for last 1/4, 18th century. As for Masonic, it is not stereotypical, but quite possible.

    It reads Adam Rossbach. Those are not the tools of a Japanner.
    Lucas

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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas
    Those are not the tools of a Japanner.
    Yeah I know I should have said so though. Just getting us going. This Newark, NJ Adam Rossbach's father was named Martin and he was from Germany and also a Japanner. So that family might be a no go.

    Maybe Creskol can give us more details as to where the buckle was found. This might assist in locating the man who goes with the name.




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    DG

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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    Buckle probably is from the early 1800's from the style and workmanship..
    DG
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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas
    The tools go back almost to Roman times.

    The clue is the use of the long 's' short 's' for double 's.' (fs not ss). It is also not the Germanic double 's' (ß).

    You really won't see that form of double 's' much past 1800. The engraving style is also right for last 1/4, 18th century. As for Masonic, it is not stereotypical, but quite possible.

    It reads Adam Rossbach. Those are not the tools of a Japanner.
    Ah ...very interesting. Is this your profession or just a hobby? I notice you are very knowlegable Lucas.

    Would this be the script used for this? ...or is this older?
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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    I see the compass and square, some kind of 2 handled saw, a set of tongs, hammer and the item to the right looks like a carpenters rule with caliper.
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    Re: Can anybody give me an approximate date for this style buckle attachment?

    i thought it looked more like a crudely engraved box plane

 

 
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