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    Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    Hi Again,

    I have received some great information on my other image question and I have decided to post one more to see if someone might be able to help me. This image was taken in the Kansas City area. From the photogapher's stamp, I have found it was taken pre-1899.

    Is this a hunter getting ready to go out or is it possibly military related? He has a rifle in a cloth sock of some sort and what looks like a bed roll on the porch behind him. I don't know what else he is holding.

    Once again, anyone who might be able to add any info, you help is greatly appreciated.

    Thank You,
    Doug


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    da book worm--researcher

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    looks like a cowboy ready to go on a hunting trip --rifle sack to keep grit and grime out of his rifle

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    That's what I was hoping. Any idea what he might be holding in his hands?

    Doug

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    well a bed roll is part of it (the tube shaped item in his hands -- normally it was tucked behind cowboy but on top of rear area the saddle ) --see the belt buckle at the end -- its a rolled up blanket with a belt tied around one end to keep it together that on the porch is a knap sack ---draped over the railing looks like a horse blanket maybe

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    The bed roll isn't on the porch! it actually has a strap over his right shoulder! so it is hanging against his back at an angle.

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    humm lean to type shelter tent maybe ?

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    Quote Originally Posted by QUICKSILVER (appletree)
    The bed roll isn't on the porch! it actually has a strap over his right shoulder! so it is hanging against his back at an angle.
    You're right! I haven't looked as closely at this image as I should have. The bottom item that man is carrying looks a lot like a tripod bag but I don't recognize the bag shape of the top item. The one thing that would not make a lot of sense if it is a tripod would be the size. Tripods of that size were made for the "pocket" cameras of the 19th century. Most photographers of that time would have taken a professional camera and a full size tripod with them and not a small one. Of course, he could be a cowboy or hunter who just like to take pics and wanted his camera with him. More than likely, it isn't a tripod, but that is what the bag reminds me of.

    Here is a link to a similar tripod (but not exact) and a pic of the type of camera that I was talking about.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Kodak-Vintage-Ca...item19be1018b7



    Thanks again everyone for all of the answers so far.

    Doug

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    Not sure what makes him a cowboy?

    Looks like a ordinary working guy going on a hunting trip.

    Bedroll, yup (huge!). Rifle, yup. He's holding a shotgun taken down and put in a store bought case with buckles and straps. There's another bit of luggage by his left foot. Leather version of a carpet bag. Waaaaaay too much stuff to go on a horse!

    I would guess around 1890-ish.
    Lucas

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    Above average working guy -- Note: Round Toe Boots (Right One Anyway) not typical pointed ones for cowboy putting foot into stirrup. More likely, surveying for railroad. stageline, something like that. He is wearing shirt, vest, and jacket, well dressed for worker of that period. The bag was the standard luggage for that period, stagecoach or train (general term was carpetbagger).

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    Everybody wore a shirt, vest and jacket back then. Even farmers.
    Lucas

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    Perhaps a surveyor? Monty
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    Aug 2009
    The Ozarks, Missouri
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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    Thanks again for all of the help so far. I am getting ready to fire off an email to the Kansas City Public Library. They have an extensive collection of early KC images. I am going to see if the historian/research librarian might recognize the part of town this image was taken in from their archives. If so, that might also shed more light.

    Thank you once again for all of the input.

    Doug

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    LOL! Looks like Steve McQueen

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?



    Proof of time travel?

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    Re: Another photo to get an opinion on (Is this military or not)?

    This may sound stupid but is the thing to the right of him a homemade rocker box for gold prospecting? If so maybe he was headed to Alaska for the gold rush. It would fit the time frame. Just a guess but what ever it is it's an awesome picture.

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