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    Sep 2007
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    California Gold Coins - Real?

    These coins all came off a very old charm bracelet from a prominent old Cincinnati family. In the first picture, I included all the coins on the bracelet, b/c the top row are all 100% authentic US issued gold coins. Here is a breakdown of the coins in the first picture:
    Top Row Left to Right:
    1) 1853 $1 US Gold
    2) 1929 $2.5 US Gold
    3) 1854 $1 US Gold
    4) 1849 $1 US Gold.
    It is the bottom row that I only have a hunch on. I do know they are all represented to be California Fractional Gold pieces. From a little research, I found out that these were reproduced by jewelers. I am hoping to find someone who is an expert on these types of coins that may be able to identify them as the real ones or the jeweler copies. I will say that they "feel" like real gold, but I just don't know for sure.
    Here is a list for Row 2 Left to Right:
    1) 1856 "Half Dol. California Gold"
    2) 1870 "Half Dollar"
    3) 1872 or 3 "1/4 Dolllar Cal."
    4) 1858 "California Gold"
    5) 1870 "1 Dollar California Gold"
    Thanks in Advance for your help,
    Jon Dickinson
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    are you sure any of them are real
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    Best suggestion on the Calif pieces is to look carefully at this site and maybe even contact the person who owns it, he is the expert on the Calif gold coins, legit and reproductions.

    http://www.calgoldcoin.com/
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Sep 2007
    Cincinnati, Ohio
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    Trader,
    The US coins are easy to call as real. Should I post the backs for you? I know they are seldom seen types, but they are very legit.
    Don,
    Thanks. I had to pay $5 to see his photo section, but my answer seems to be coming. I suspected they might be real, and the site has confirmed all but the 1858 without a denomination. At least I think it has. I will try to post some individual pics with his site pics.
    Regards,
    Jon Dickinson

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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?



    Isn't there white metal showing on many around where they're punched? What about the holed ones... is it gold on the inside where it was drilled?

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    Sep 2007
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    IronPatch,
    I see you have suspicions about these coins, and that is a good thing. I just about didn't even research them assuming they were fake. My pics aren't great, and there is a little solder on a few of them. Reading about them it is also possible they are not pure gold. Apparently, they were not made with much consistency or maybe even truthfulness. With this being said, I am gaining confidence in them being the real deal. I would love your opinion after these pics. I can try to retake my pics also. I kinda rushed them.
    Regards,
    Jon Dickinson.
    This first coin is listed at BG-1202. It is a 1 Dollar coin dated 1870. The 1870 is lightly struck, which is interesting b/c there is an exact coin on ebay right now with a light strike of the date.
    The professional looking pics come from the calgold website, and the other pics are of my piece. I think it is a match. Opinions?
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    Sep 2007
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    This one is the listed as BG-921 $1/2 dollar 1870.
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    monty

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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    I am no expert on gold coins, but there is something about the last one in the photograph that doesn't look right. The stars are not sharply defined and the star in front of Libertie's head is slightly out of place compared to the one above. Just a guess on my part. Monty
    Don't make me loose the hounds! If you dig, Cover up your holes.

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    Sep 2007
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    This one is listed as BG-310 or BG-311( I can't tell for sure) 1856 1/2 Dollar.
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    Sep 2007
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    I will post the other tomorrow. I didn't get a good pic at all of the front.

    Monty- You are correct that the coins are different. The one on top is a US issue $1 1849 gold piece, and the one on the bottom is a California $1 1870 gold piece that was made to mimic the US gold piece.

    Jon.

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    Sep 2007
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    Forgot I already had a pic of the front before I clipped the rings off. This one is listed as BG-869 1/4 Dollar 187x. Mine has a nearly identical smudge on the date as the one in the pro photo.
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    Quote Originally Posted by pointdlr
    This one is the listed as BG-921 $1/2 dollar 1870.

    Is it just the picture or is that a white metal to the right of the hole where it looks like there is a scrape?


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    Sep 2007
    Cincinnati, Ohio
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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    Iron Patch,
    It is some kind of "goop" on top of the coin. I will remove it with a toothpick tomorrow and take another pic. Just grime.
    Jon.

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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    Quote Originally Posted by pointdlr
    Iron Patch,
    It is some kind of "goop" on top of the coin. I will remove it with a toothpick tomorrow and take another pic. Just grime.
    Jon.
    Ok, it's probably just solder from attaching the loops.

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    Re: California Gold Coins - Real?

    Well my 2 cents are probably only worth 1 since I've never found, held or seen a gold coin so take this accordingly.

    but if these were all gold and part of a charm bracelet, wouldn't they show alot more wear and scratching from banging together? Of course consideration should be taken that maybe it was not worn at all, however (no experience with this either ) don't prominent rich people like to wear and flaunt their bling?


 

 
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