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  1. #1
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    Waterville eagle button How old?

    This is about 1 inch across. It is marked - Waterville Mfg. Co. It was found with 1830-50 stuff. What's the story with this one?
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    Re: Waterville eagle button How old?

    1847-1850s
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    Re: Waterville eagle button How old?

    Quote Originally Posted by creskol
    1847-1850s
    Man that was quick. Thanks!

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    Re: Waterville eagle button How old?

    I miss my trips to Huntingdon ... My son went to Juniata College ... Pretty country up there. Use to see several guys hunting the fields up there from time to time, but never got the chance to meet any of them.
    "Wherever I go .. That's where I'll be!"

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    Re: Waterville eagle button How old?

    Is there a story to go with this? I see the green check went up but I would like to know more about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiggerDave in Pa.
    This is about 1 inch across. It is marked - Waterville Mfg. Co. It was found with 1830-50 stuff. What's the story with this one?

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    Re: Waterville eagle button back

    Obviously the back to a two piece button, and a very unusal design as well. Question being what was the face.

    Looking in my copy of McGuinn & Bazelon, Waterville was listed as a maker of fine Sporting buttons during the period already identified by Creskol. The only listing I see for a military for Waterville is a Navy cuff button.

    But keep an open mind as unknown/unlisted button variants are surfacing everyday.

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    Re: Waterville eagle button back

    Quote Originally Posted by Digger54
    Obviously the back to a two piece button, and a very unusal design as well. Question being what was the face.

    Looking in my copy of McGuinn & Bazelon, Waterville was listed as a maker of fine Sporting buttons during the period already identified by Creskol. The only listing I see for a military for Waterville is a Navy cuff button.

    But keep an open mind as unknown/unlisted button variants are surfacing everyday.
    It doesn't look like anything is missing on this one. The metal is thin and a little bent. The shank is still intact. The eagle shows up better from the back side. This came from a very early site. The newest coin I found was a 1846 large cent. No new junk at all. Sites like this are hard to find. If it makes a noise. I dig it.

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    Re: Waterville eagle button back

    Quote Originally Posted by DiggerDave in Pa.
    Quote Originally Posted by Digger54
    Obviously the back to a two piece button, and a very unusal design as well. Question being what was the face.

    Looking in my copy of McGuinn & Bazelon, Waterville was listed as a maker of fine Sporting buttons during the period already identified by Creskol. The only listing I see for a military for Waterville is a Navy cuff button.

    But keep an open mind as unknown/unlisted button variants are surfacing everyday.
    It doesn't look like anything is missing on this one. The metal is thin and a little bent. The shank is still intact. The eagle shows up better from the back side. This came from a very early site. The newest coin I found was a 1846 large cent. No new junk at all. Sites like this are hard to find. If it makes a noise. I dig it.
    No doubt in my mind that is a button back. Most are lipped upward like that. When I get home tonight I will send you some pics of typical button backs. Additionally flat buttons were quite thick versus thin.

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    Re: Waterville eagle button How old?

    They started out as Leavenworths & Kendrick, from 1829-34; in 1837 they were known as Ives, Kendrick & Co; in 1847, they became Waterville Mfg. Co.

    Almost all the sites that list buttons state they went out of business in the 1850s; however, the Greene County tax assessments for 1869 and 1870 show them listed:

    http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ny...869_part_2.htm (about 15 from the bottom)

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us (under 'Catskill Leeds', near the bottom)

    I've read they were renamed Waterville Cutlery (they did, in fact, employ many English-born cutlers) and Water-Ville Co. No matter, they sold in 1890 and eventually placed in receivership in 1913.

    Truth is, they were far better known for making pocket knives and said to be one of the top US makers. There aren't a lot of their buttons to be found on the internet; the ones you do find are usually 'sporting' buttons, stated to be made 1847-1850s (though some are claimed to the 1860s).

    Check this link. The top 'rabbit' button has your backmark, etc.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=300509799902+





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    Re: Waterville eagle button How old?

    "It doesn't look like anything is missing on this one. "

    As promised, thought I would start with my heart breaker for you. Shown is a 24mm button back with a Hammon Turner Sons mark. The back has a bent loop and the sheet brass is very stiff. The maker only made one military button. I never found the face. I pounded the area, but being a deeply plowed field it is still possibly out there, but the land has changed hands and now I can't go back. I keep a copy of what that button face looked like with my back. CS36A with an RV60 rating. Those that seriously collect buttons know how much this is a heart breaker.
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    More button backs

    Most are eagle button backs but some aren't with generic markings no way to id what was what.
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  12. #12
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    Dave I just brought up a button with the same back, On the face of mine there are two doves

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    here's my button

    i just dug a sportsman button yesterday same backmark.i live in waterbury ct.waterville is a section of waterbury
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    Last edited by HEAVYMETALNUT; Mar 18, 2013 at 04:11 PM.
    2014 large coppers 63 * 1 GW button
    2013 large coppers 57 1/4 * silvers-9* IH's-36 -1 gold ring 6 GW's
    2012 large coppers 92 * SILVERS 33 * IH'S 28 1 GW button
    2011 large coppers 80 3/4*SILVERS 49* IH'S 73 2 GW's
    2010 large coppers 34 1 GW button
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  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEAVYMETALNUT View Post
    i just dug a sportsman button yesterday same backmark.i live in waterbury ct.waterville is a suburb of waterbury
    I have never ever seen a Sportsman with a Mtn. Lion(Puma,cougar)
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  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by kuger View Post
    I have never ever seen a Sportsman with a Mtn. Lion(Puma,cougar)
    me neither until this one
    2014 large coppers 63 * 1 GW button
    2013 large coppers 57 1/4 * silvers-9* IH's-36 -1 gold ring 6 GW's
    2012 large coppers 92 * SILVERS 33 * IH'S 28 1 GW button
    2011 large coppers 80 3/4*SILVERS 49* IH'S 73 2 GW's
    2010 large coppers 34 1 GW button
    WHITE'S MACHINES- XLT,MXT-All Pro, SILVER EAGLE, EAGLE SPECTRUM & BEACH HUNTER ID-300.white's TRX pin pointer

 

 

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