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  1. #1
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    Jed Clampetts? Rare 69 Cal. conversion

    I was told to move this here by a local detecting Wise Man. :P
    AKA Modern Miner

    Received this for moving a couple of woodworking tools for a customer.

    Any help on age, point of origin and name would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks for any help in advance.
    Sorry i wont be able to get to replys till thursday night. Remodeling works gone crazy.
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  2. #2
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    The gun is made in Belgium. It looks authentic.

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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    E.L.G. European Proof Mark
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  4. #4
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Liege gun works of Belgium
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  5. #5
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Thanks all here`s the previous post that has some good links.
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,414434.0.html
    OH, whats it worth?

  6. #6
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Darn, I know I have seen that one before. I cant remember what it is, but I believe it was once a muzzle loader but was converted into a breech loader. Ill have to dig around some, But I have seen that rifle before.
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  7. #7
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Thanks BCH,
    Need more info to keep it off the mantel as a conversation piece.

  8. #8
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Hey I own one of these But mine is marked ZULU. and I have had it checked out and it was from and used in the Great Zulu war. I have had a value of around 400. on mine but keep it hanging over my mantle. It is a Nice looking item you have ... If you want some more info on it I can get you some..
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  9. #9
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    It's similar to a model 1864 Snyder breech loader, but looks like a sporting rifle more than military. My GUESS is that it's a shotgun, but that's only a guess. It's a really cool over the mantle gun though whatever it turns out to be. If I were researching it "Snyder Breechloader" is where I'd start.

    Here's a link to a military Snyder rifle:

    http://www.ima-usa.com/british-p-186...-complete.html

    It's selling for $550.

    A little research and I have found out that many of the Snyder rifles were sold as surplus, and converted into sporting arms. Mostly 12 gauge shotguns. Whatever you do, don't try to fire a modern 12 ga shell in it, IT WILL BLOW UP!, they were made for black powder only.

    Here's a link to one similar to yours.....

    http://www.monstermarketplace.com/ce...otgun-457-used
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Quote Originally Posted by B|lker
    Thanks BCH,
    Need more info to keep it off the mantel as a conversation piece.
    I dont know the value. I only recognized the Liege mark. Some members found Belgian boot pistols with the same L E G * mark.
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  11. #11
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Found a bit more : "They are actually French muzzleloading rifle-muskets converted to .69 cal. breech-loading rifles, which in turn were converted to shotguns."



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    "That's me, on the beach side combing the sand, metal meter in my hand, sporting a pocket full of change"...... NOFX

    Now in the process of posting my antique photo collection at : http://forgottonimages.tumblr.com/

  12. #12
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Quote Originally Posted by NOLA_Ken
    Found a bit more : "They are actually French muzzleloading rifle-muskets converted to .69 cal. breech-loading rifles, which in turn were converted to shotguns."



    I guess its a breech-loader made in Leige and stamped HUNTER, created from a French made musket, later converted to 12 ga. shotgun as explained

    http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCG...TABASE=objects,

    Notes: "SPAR-8140 - ZULU - 12 guage -This gun was created from a French Army musket by a Belgian gun maker. The trade name ZULU was registered in Belgium December 23, 1885 by Fabrique D'Armes De Liege. They also made guns of this type marked HUNTER, GREENBACK, BUSHMAN, and KAFFIR" - Joseph T. Vorisek


    "With the advent of the breech loading guns many older guns were rebuilt and a breech block added to use more modern ammunition. This 'mongrel' gun was remade in Belgium from an old French musket made at St. Etienne, France, and with the breech adapted to use a Snyder type breech block. Chambered to take the 12 gage shot gun shell.
    Thousands of these guns were sold to the natives in the Colonial possessions of various European countries."

  13. #13
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Quote Originally Posted by NOLA_Ken
    Found a bit more : "They are actually French muzzleloading rifle-muskets converted to .69 cal. breech-loading rifles, which in turn were converted to shotguns."



    I guess its a breech-loader made in Leige and stamped HUNTER, created from a French made musket, later converted to 12 ga. shotgun as explained

    http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCG...TABASE=objects,

    Notes: "SPAR-8140 - ZULU - 12 guage -This gun was created from a French Army musket by a Belgian gun maker. The trade name ZULU was registered in Belgium December 23, 1885 by Fabrique D'Armes De Liege. They also made guns of this type marked HUNTER, GREENBACK, BUSHMAN, and KAFFIR" - Joseph T. Vorisek


    "With the advent of the breech loading guns many older guns were rebuilt and a breech block added to use more modern ammunition. This 'mongrel' gun was remade in Belgium from an old French musket made at St. Etienne, France, and with the breech adapted to use a Snyder type breech block. Chambered to take the 12 gage shot gun shell.
    Thousands of these guns were sold to the natives in the Colonial possessions of various European countries."
    Good one BigC. I found the same article yesterday while researching this in his other thread here- http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,414434.0.htmlbut didn't post it because I got busy doing something else.
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  14. #14
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    Cool, I love everyone`s responses.
    Still soaking it all up and doing more research.
    Work has limited my ability to spend as much time as i would like responding to all.
    Thanks all,
    B|lker

  15. #15
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    Re: Jed Clampetts?

    I have a similar one - though mine is marked "ZULU" as well.


    They do fire (if you are brave enough). When it's open pulling back on the hinged block extracts the shot shell.

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