i need help to ID these two coins

[coinfusion]

ok well the coin with the anchor does not have a date on the coin, there is a tiny star beneath the anchors tip . around the anchor says RECHEN PFENNIG
on the back of the coin is a two headed bird with its wings open. it weighs 0.33gram and is 15mm is size

the second coin says..... 1 CF?OTNHKA . AND THE DATE ON IT IS 1901
it weighs 0.88gram and its dimensions are 16mm

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Theres a similar one on eBay. I guess its German. Is the back different?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CIRCA-1850S-...-/130390280976

[mrs.oroblanco]

Hope you don't mind.

Beth

[coinfusion]

heh nope i dont mind at all! thanks!

[Bramblefind]

Welcome to the board! The second coin is a 1 Stotinka from Bulgaria

http://cgi.ebay.com/BULGARIA-1-STOTI...item1c1e060b7c

[coinfusion]

sweet thank you very much for your help!! really !

[CRUSADER]

RECHEN PFENNIG means its a 'counting token/penny' & not a coin. We call them Jettons or as the French would say Jeton. It is Germany who took over the world in Jetton making, as they developed & guarded there mass production techniques & expertise. Basically flooded the UK/European market & put our manufactures out of business but that was hundreds of years before this Jetton/Token.

The closest I can get is a Rechenfennigmachermeister by the name of Ludwig Christian Lauer probably working from Kleinweidenmuhle on the banks of the river Pegnitz in the 1860s.

He produced the Jetton which BigC linked to on ebay & he produced Crowned Double-headed Imperial eagles with shield on breast, holding orb & sceptre. Problem is I can't find your combination of both matching dies, however, yours falls within the right weight & size for his Anchor type Jettons.

[Bramblefind]

RECHEN PFENNIG means its a 'counting token/penny' & not a coin. We call them Jettons or as the French would say Jeton. It is Germany who took over the world in Jetton making, as they developed & guarded there mass production techniques & expertise. Basically flooded the UK/European market & put our manufactures out of business but that was hundreds of years before this Jetton/Token.

The closest I can get is a Rechenfennigmachermeister by the name of Ludwig Christian Lauer probably working from Kleinweidenmuhle on the banks of the river Pegnitz in the 1860s.

He produced the Jetton which BigC linked to on ebay & he produced Crowned Double-headed Imperial eagles with shield on breast, holding orb & sceptre. Problem is I can't find your combination of both matching dies, however, yours falls within the right weight & size for his Anchor type Jettons.

That's great info

Here's another of the same pictured (#24)- not much to add about it though-

http://www.stoa.org/gallery/album136?page=2

24 (ACE) Imperial Eagle / RECHEN PFENNIG. Anchor over star. 14mm

[coinfusion]

wow you guys!! thank you all for your help!! i have been struggling with these two coins for days.

i really appreciate it!!

[coinfusion]

now heres a good question!! what do you think these coins would be priced at?

[CRUSADER]

now heres a good question!! what do you think these coins would be priced at?

As its a mass produced cheap brass jetton, not very much, if it made $5 they over paid.

[sagittarius98]

The 1 stotinka would only be worth $1-$2, but it is a nice coin.