cw relic

[billpa]

A friend dug these in union trenches on private land in Richmond,Va.area.

the IH penny is just for size.
Thanks, Bill

[Iron Patch]

Maybe a scabbard tip/finial. I have found quite a few so it would probably make the most sense for my location.

[timekiller]

The one piece is from a cap box or a cartrige box dug one on my last outing the other looks like a suspender piece.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarantiqueshop.com/l20.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/civil-war-cap-box.htm

[Iron Patch]

The one piece is from a cap box or a cartrige box dug one on my last outing the other looks like a suspender piece.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarantiqueshop.com/l20.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/civil-war-cap-box.htm

Now that I think about it I believe the scabbard tips are all brass? Anyway if it's from a cartridge box I'm surprised how many turn up here.

[timekiller]

The one piece is from a cap box or a cartrige box dug one on my last outing the other looks like a suspender piece.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarantiqueshop.com/l20.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/civil-war-cap-box.htm

Now that I think about it I believe the scabbard tips are all brass? Anyway if it's from a cartridge box I'm surprised how many turn up here.

I think I've seen them used on saddle bags to besides the cap/cartridge boxes so I'm sure they had many uses.
Take Care,
Pete,

[Iron Patch]

The one piece is from a cap box or a cartrige box dug one on my last outing the other looks like a suspender piece.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarantiqueshop.com/l20.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/civil-war-cap-box.htm

Now that I think about it I believe the scabbard tips are all brass? Anyway if it's from a cartridge box I'm surprised how many turn up here.

I think I've seen them used on saddle bags to besides the cap/cartridge boxes so I'm sure they had many uses.
Take Care,
Pete,

I found one about 5 weeks into detecting and didn't think much about it then or since. But it's a relic.

[timekiller]

The one piece is from a cap box or a cartrige box dug one on my last outing the other looks like a suspender piece.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarantiqueshop.com/l20.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/civil-war-cap-box.htm

Now that I think about it I believe the scabbard tips are all brass? Anyway if it's from a cartridge box I'm surprised how many turn up here.

I think I've seen them used on saddle bags to besides the cap/cartridge boxes so I'm sure they had many uses.
Take Care,
Pete,

I found one about 5 weeks into detecting and didn't think much about it then or since. But it's a relic.

That's it Buddy(relic), I find it just as much fun now & days learning what I find as much as finding things.Maybe not quite but you know what I mean. Where & when I hunt I can be in the high 90% range that it's something so before long I'll find the answer just takes time sometimes. Even the things that most not care about.
Best To Ya Patch.............
Pete,

[timekiller]

Here is one close cartridge box...........

[Bigcypresshunter]

Are there any markings on the handle? Paleoman found a similar handle patent 001855 but we were unable to ID it. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,215193.0.html

[timekiller]

Are there any markings on the handle? Paleoman found a similar handle patent 001855 but we were unable to ID it. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,215193.0.html

Good catch just was going on how it looked from first glance.If it is a handle though would not be lifting much as small as it is & the way it's crimped together on back.Look sorta like suspender pieces I've dug that have the patent date on them. Here's one something like it also I just found.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,430793.0.html

[timekiller]

Here ya go....................
http://cwbullet.org/bullet-relic-for...?t=5493&page=1

[billpa]

Thanks guys ,I think your right on both.Timekiller that looks like the piece on the cartridge box.
bigcypress the handle could be the same,its a little too crusty to read.
Thanks,Bill

[billpa]

Here ya go....................
http://cwbullet.org/bullet-relic-for...?t=5493&page=1

THATS IT

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here ya go....................
http://cwbullet.org/bullet-relic-for...?t=5493&page=1

I wish we could pull up the patent. I dont understand the 2 bullseyes in front of 1855. This solves the other thread too.

[Bigcypresshunter]

Could this be the patent? http://www.google.com/patents?id=7Gp...%201855&f=true

[TheCannonballGuy]

Iron Patch is correct... it is definitely a bayonet scabbard tip's finial. Specifically, from a US Springfield rifle bayonet's scabbard.

On cartridge-box and cap-box finials, the "knob" of the finial is comparatively shorter, fatter, and blunt-er than a bayonet scabbard tip's finial. Here's a couple of photos of a US Springfield bayonet's scabbard tip, showing that its finial is longer, narrower, and pointer than a cartridge-box/cap-box finial.

[kuger]

Those buckles were on trousers as well

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its getting very close to a green check on this thread.

[timekiller]

Maybe a scabbard tip/finial. I have found quite a few so it would probably make the most sense for my location.

You got it. Sorry about that I was just in to the cap boxes & stuff the other day looking at mine so it was what came to me first.

[Iron Patch]

Maybe a scabbard tip/finial. I have found quite a few so it would probably make the most sense for my location.

You got it. Sorry about that I was just in to the cap boxes & stuff the other day looking at mine so it was what came to me first.

Hey, I didn't know for sure either, and all I care about is seeing the right answer in the end. People like you just keep it interesting.