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Nov 08, 2011, 05:59 PM
#1
help w/button I.D.
Hello everybody!!! a freind of mine found this button(?) beside a dump in erie,pa. and asked if i could help w/the i.d...i am lost so i turned to the fine folks at TN.
Any ifo will help...HH ALL!!!
I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death so you can say it!/Voltaire
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Nov 08, 2011, 06:40 PM
#2
Re: help w/button I.D.
Looks like an early militia/rifleman's button. I can't make out all the wording on the back. I see London and Gilt. What is the other word?
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Nov 08, 2011, 06:54 PM
#3
I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines. I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.
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Nov 08, 2011, 06:56 PM
#4
Re: help w/button I.D.
 Originally Posted by fyrffytr1
Looks like an early militia/rifleman's button. I can't make out all the wording on the back. I see London and Gilt. What is the other word?
It looks to be IKECIK GILT or IKEBIK GILT...I really can't make it out&have not tried to clean it yet...when dropped it sounds like a coin&appears to be copper or brass,thin like a coin also.
I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death so you can say it!/Voltaire
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Nov 08, 2011, 06:59 PM
#5
Re: help w/button I.D.
 Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
TREBLE GILT?
Yes that it what it say's...the T is not very clear...big cypresshunter ALWAYS a pleasure to hear your input(&knowledge!)
I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death so you can say it!/Voltaire
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Nov 08, 2011, 07:09 PM
#6
Re: help w/button I.D.
 Originally Posted by fyrffytr1
Looks like an early militia/rifleman's button. I can't make out all the wording on the back. I see London and Gilt. What is the other word?
Yes i am pretty sure now that it IS a riflemans/militia button...but will wait awhile to mark it solved,Thank's for the lead...
I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death so you can say it!/Voltaire
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Nov 08, 2011, 07:16 PM
#7
Re: help w/button I.D.
 Originally Posted by tokenhead
 Originally Posted by fyrffytr1
Looks like an early militia/rifleman's button. I can't make out all the wording on the back. I see London and Gilt. What is the other word?
Yes i am pretty sure now that it IS a riflemans/militia button...but will wait awhile to mark it solved,Thank's for the lead...
Saw a few on William Leigh button site...it appears to be a button either rev.war or war of 1812,he has them listed at $125.00-$185.00...I beleive this is solved
I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death so you can say it!/Voltaire
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Nov 08, 2011, 07:18 PM
#8
Re: help w/button I.D.
No question about it, definitely "Treble Gilt."
Your button is an unknown US state's Militia Rifleman button, manufactured in England, approximately 1816-to-1830. It is button RF-26B in the Albert button-book.
On a 19th-century button's backmark, the term "plate" or "plated" means silver plating (not gold, which was termed "gilt"). I mention that because particularly regarding a Treble-plated (triple-plated) button, careful cleaning may reveal an appreciable amount of silverplate still remaining on it, mainly in the recessed areas on the button's face.
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Nov 08, 2011, 07:21 PM
#9
Re: help w/button I.D.
 Originally Posted by TheCannonballGuy
No question about it, definitely "Treble Gilt."
Your button is an unknown US state's Militia Rifleman button, manufactured in England, approximately 1816-to-1830. It is button RF-26B in the Albert button-book.
On a 19th-century button's backmark, the term "plate" or "plated" means silver plating (not gold, which was termed "gilt"). I mention that because particularly regading a Treble-plated (triple-plated) button, careful cleaning may reveal an appreciable amount of silverplate still remaining on it, mainly in the recessed areas on the button's face.
Thank you
I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death so you can say it!/Voltaire
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Nov 08, 2011, 09:59 PM
#10
Re: help w/button I.D.
You're welcome.
About cleaning your brass button (not pewter)... I use common household ammonia -- plain ammonia, not "sudsy" or any other formula. Ammonia can be too harsh for heavily encrusted or heavily corroded buttons, so DO NOT use it unless you are absolutely certain the button can withstand it. As a precaution, dilute the ammonia 50/50 with water. Put the button in it, face-side up. Let it sit for 90 seconds, remove it, dip a toothbrush's tip into the ammonia and scrub gently. Then rinse the button thoroughly under running water, to get rid of every trace of ammonia on it. If further cleaning is needed, put the button back into the ammonia for another 60 (or 30) seconds, and repeat the gentle scrub with the toothbrush's tip. Don't forget to rinse thoroughly! It's very important not to overclean, which is why I do it in stages.
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Nov 10, 2011, 01:22 PM
#11
Re: help w/button I.D.
 Originally Posted by TheCannonballGuy
You're welcome.
About cleaning your brass button (not pewter)... I use common household ammonia -- plain ammonia, not "sudsy" or any other formula. Ammonia can be too harsh for heavily encrusted or heavily corroded buttons, so DO NOT use it unless you are absolutely certain the button can withstand it. As a precaution, dilute the ammonia 50/50 with water. Put the button in it, face-side up. Let it sit for 90 seconds, remove it, dip a toothbrush's tip into the ammonia and scrub gently. Then rinse the button thoroughly under running water, to get rid of every trace of ammonia on it. If further cleaning is needed, put the button back into the ammonia for another 60 (or 30) seconds, and repeat the gentle scrub with the toothbrush's tip. Don't forget to rinse thoroughly! It's very important not to overclean, which is why I do it in stages.
Again...Thank You !
I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death so you can say it!/Voltaire
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Nov 11, 2011, 10:40 AM
#12
Re: help w/button I.D.
on the back of the button on the inner circle at 12 oclock above the shank, i can see the prince of wales feathers
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