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  1. #1
    ca
    Nov 2011
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    Have an idea?

    Two explanations I could come up with are 1- Some sort of lantern cover? 2. Maybe an incense burner?

    It is 9" long by 4.5" wide at the base, is made of 1/8" thick brass, has a very fine bayonet type attachment inside.

    Must not be very old since it was very slightly tarnished and also has cast marks inside with rougher finish, could not find it's base.

    Thanks in advance for your replies. HH
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  2. #2
    us
    I dig zinc....

    Oct 2010
    Tyler, TX
    Fisher F75 standard
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    Re: Have an idea?

    Just going by the cut out pattern, I would say you are displaying it upside down. Any chance of an inside pic? I'm thinking maybe part of a swag lamp or other light fixture?


    Whatever it turns out to be, it is a cool find!!
    Roland

    All electrical devices are powered by smoke......when the smoke escapes, they no longer work.

  3. #3
    ca
    Nov 2011
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    Re: Have an idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland58
    Just going by the cut out pattern, I would say you are displaying it upside down. Any chance of an inside pic? I'm thinking maybe part of a swag lamp or other light fixture?


    Whatever it turns out to be, it is a cool find!!

    I don't think it would be screwed in the other way to heavy, but it could very well be a table lamp cover for there where no burn nor smoke marks on it unless it never served it's
    purpose. HH PS: It has no stamping of any sort, looking at the hole at peak makes me think that maybe it can be suspended then again would be a heavy piece hanging over someones head .

  4. #4
    us
    Feb 2010
    Vancouver WA
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    Re: Have an idea?

    I'd love to see more pics, of the inside too if you can, it looks interesting! Red
    Found my first gold for 2011!!!! One gold and diamond ring, and one 22 carat gold ring from Europe!!!!!

  5. #5
    us
    I dig zinc....

    Oct 2010
    Tyler, TX
    Fisher F75 standard
    1,111
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Ahhh, I think I may have it. Looking at the horizontal hole in the very top........how about the ornamental base to a banker's lamp?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=banke...OubM2AWS1p3BDw
    Roland

    All electrical devices are powered by smoke......when the smoke escapes, they no longer work.

  6. #6
    ca
    Nov 2011
    Higher-North-Shore Qc.
    Garret Ace 350
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    Re: Have an idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland58
    Ahhh, I think I may have it. Looking at the horizontal hole in the very top........how about the ornamental base to a banker's lamp?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=banke...OubM2AWS1p3BDw
    Checked the banker's lamp site and it would make sense but there is something that puzzles me, why would they have gone trough the trouble of making this bayonnet type screw in? unless it was screwed into a heavyer base maybe marble with a brass male piece fixed to it? it could be possible.
    Well my dear Watson we will have to look into this....lol, I think you might be right.

  7. #7
    us
    I dig zinc....

    Oct 2010
    Tyler, TX
    Fisher F75 standard
    1,111
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebeard
    Quote Originally Posted by Roland58
    Ahhh, I think I may have it. Looking at the horizontal hole in the very top........how about the ornamental base to a banker's lamp?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=banke...OubM2AWS1p3BDw
    Checked the banker's lamp site and it would make sense but there is something that puzzles me, why would they have gone trough the trouble of making this bayonnet type screw in? unless it was screwed into a heavyer base maybe marble with a brass male piece fixed to it? it could be possible.
    Well my dear Watson we will have to look into this....lol, I think you might be right.
    Think you could get a pic of this "bayonet type screw in?" I'm really not picturing this in my feeble mind.
    Roland

    All electrical devices are powered by smoke......when the smoke escapes, they no longer work.

  8. #8
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    Oct 2009
    North Carolina
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    Re: Have an idea?

    I think what you have it a topper to something in the wood stove, gas lamp, or the likes family; an item where heat would escape. It doesn't appear to be a 100 yr. old antique, but does have some age. Interesting, Breezie
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  9. #9
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    Re: Have an idea?

    Sure would like to see a pic or 2 of that underside.
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  10. #10
    ca
    Nov 2011
    Higher-North-Shore Qc.
    Garret Ace 350
    264
    1 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland58
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebeard
    Quote Originally Posted by Roland58
    Ahhh, I think I may have it. Looking at the horizontal hole in the very top........how about the ornamental base to a banker's lamp?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=banke...OubM2AWS1p3BDw
    Checked the banker's lamp site and it would make sense but there is something that puzzles me, why would they have gone trough the trouble of making this bayonnet type screw in? unless it was screwed into a heavyer base maybe marble with a brass male piece fixed to it? it could be possible.
    Well my dear Watson we will have to look into this....lol, I think you might be right.
    Think you could get a pic of this "bayonet type screw in?" I'm really not picturing this in my feeble mind.
    I am not very well equiped for photography I will have to borrow a friend's digital cam for clear closeups and send you better pics later, it may very well help us out.
    What I can add for now is that the male part should have two pins sticking out 1/16" approx. and in assembling you would have to line up those pins with the two slits inside border of the part I have and turn counter clock wise to lock both parts together.

  11. #11
    ca
    Nov 2011
    Higher-North-Shore Qc.
    Garret Ace 350
    264
    1 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breezie
    I think what you have it a topper to something in the wood stove, gas lamp, or the likes family; an item where heat would escape. It doesn't appear to be a 100 yr. old antique, but does have some age. Interesting, Breezie
    You could be wright Breezie, it comes close (size wise) to the outdoor lamp and stove decoration pictures you have sent, thanks for joining the search, Whitebeard.

  12. #12
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    Jan 2005
    North Bethesda, MD
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    Re: Have an idea?

    Whatever it is, it appears to have had a ring through the hole in the top to hang or carry it.

    Nate

  13. #13
    us
    I dig zinc....

    Oct 2010
    Tyler, TX
    Fisher F75 standard
    1,111
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Maybe it is like one of those things the Pope swings around with the smoke in it.....? Nah.
    Roland

    All electrical devices are powered by smoke......when the smoke escapes, they no longer work.

  14. #14
    ca
    Nov 2011
    Higher-North-Shore Qc.
    Garret Ace 350
    264
    1 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland58
    Maybe it is like one of those things the Pope swings around with the smoke in it.....? Nah.
    I don't think the design would be apropriate unless it would be used in some kind of hippie ritual...lol

    I think that Breezie's theory and yours about the banker's lamp are very interesting.

  15. #15
    us
    I dig zinc....

    Oct 2010
    Tyler, TX
    Fisher F75 standard
    1,111
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Yeah, Breezie is the pro, no doubt. I will be very interested to see this resolved.
    Roland

    All electrical devices are powered by smoke......when the smoke escapes, they no longer work.

  16. #16
    ca
    Nov 2011
    Higher-North-Shore Qc.
    Garret Ace 350
    264
    1 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Check this out!

    If you look at picture below you will see ship lanterns now imagine replacing globe with object found then you have a night-light, (the object was found near shore of St.Lawrence River (brass=ship apparels or ornaments)), now heavy perforated brass globe (chimney) on heavy brass oil reservoir table type, the weight of it all keeps it from slipping on table during windy periods specially if you have protruding nail type points on bottom of reservoir then it wont even move, so during heavier winds it can be suspended (hole at tip of found object), now if you roll back up and look at object you will see it has a ceiling separated from roof so this keeps roof from getting to hot so now we know there is flame or at least heat involved so this becomes a clue.

    Now the question is: Did such a type of lamp-lantern ever exist? (If it never did I'll invent it)

    I know this might sound crazy to some of you but I'm tired and it's all I have for now........goodnight.
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  17. #17
    us
    Sep 2005
    NE Italy
    MXT/PI Pro/Garrett GS
    62

    Re: Have an idea?

    I didnt have an idea until
    Quote Originally Posted by Roland58
    Maybe it is like one of those things the Pope swings around with the smoke in it.....? Nah.
    .............YEA! It looks like one half of a hanging candle holder. Google image "hanging candle holder" and youll see a bunch of em, or google image "mary's tomb" for a pic of thousands of em hanging there like I thought of.... Good call Ro58.

  18. #18
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    Re: Have an idea?

    how about a catholic "Censer" Church Incense Burner
    like this one
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  19. #19
    ca
    Nov 2011
    Higher-North-Shore Qc.
    Garret Ace 350
    264
    1 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Have an idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by fmerg
    how about a catholic "Censer" Church Incense Burner
    like this one
    It surely is mind bogging, after checking a while back I found out that they where usually made of silver or silver plating on brass, now the incense burners where much thinner (than object found) for a reason of weight, they where hand held at full length of arm and swung around so needed to be as light as possible, a question I am still asking myself to date is where they molded? object found is cast we can see light mold marks on the inside and there are no traces of silver plating plus the design does not seem to be of religious order I would say they look more like Bohemian or in the order of folk art.

    Yes I know most of you want pics of the inside but I'm waiting to borrow good photography equipment to take clear closeups.

 

 

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