solved Cast Iron Tools I think????

[cdsieg]

I have found several tools but don't have a clue as to how to identify the age of them, so if you could please look and give me your thoughts I would really appreciate it!

[stefen]

The ax is similar to the Humboldt (California Redwoods) type...

And the hoe heads of that type have been around for several centuries...in fact, same style is still being sold...I happen to have one in my storage shed...along with old shovels, picks and breaker bars...

Hope that helps some.

[BuckleBoy]

"N" and "2" are halves of a broken double blade axe. The hoe heads look interesting. Not certain how old they are. Are they perfectly regular and symmetrical, or uneven? I have one I am pretty sure was hand forged, since it is so lopsided...

I like the old tools. I clean a lot of them up and save them.

Best Wishes,


Buckles

[lumbercamp]

J might be a broken stove poker. I'm with BuckleBoy, old tools are very interesting to find.

[BuckleBoy]

J might be a broken stove poker. I'm with BuckleBoy, old tools are very interesting to find.

[cdsieg]

The ax is similar to the Humboldt (California Redwoods) type...

And the hoe heads of that type have been around for several centuries...in fact, same style is still being sold...I happen to have one in my storage shed...along with old shovels, picks and breaker bars...

Hope that helps some.

Hi Stefan, Thank you for taking the time to reply all information is helpful and certainly appreciated! I looked up Humboldt tools and didn't find much but there modern tools. I know this stuff has been around for ever, that is why I don't know how people can tell if they really have something historic or just an old tool without a handle! LOL

[kuger]

Your two single bit axe's(the one is broke)appear to be 1850's-60's.I recently read some info on a C.W. dig where they dug hundreds of axe's and never dug a single double bit axe.I know we dont dig them in pre '65 ish sites

http://www.libertyrifles.org/research/dugtools.html

Hoes
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/j_mayo/tools/tools.html

[cdsieg]

"N" and "2" are halves of a broken double blade axe. The hoe heads look interesting. Not certain how old they are. Are they perfectly regular and symmetrical, or uneven? I have one I am pretty sure was hand forged, since it is so lopsided...

I like the old tools. I clean a lot of them up and save them.

Best Wishes,


Buckles

BuckleBoy: Thanks for the info, I took a better look at them and got some better photos they are uneven and somewhat lopsided, if they are hand forged what kind of age might that make them? Thanks again for your feedback. cdsieg

[cdsieg]

Your two single bit axe's(the one is broke)appear to be 1850's-60's.I recently read some info on a C.W. dig where they dug hundreds of axe's and never dug a single double bit axe.I know we dont dig them in pre '65 ish sites

http://www.libertyrifles.org/research/dugtools.html

kuger: Awesome information and great link! Thank YOU! So my double head is most likely not that old?

[kuger]

Your two single bit axe's(the one is broke)appear to be 1850's-60's.I recently read some info on a C.W. dig where they dug hundreds of axe's and never dug a single double bit axe.I know we dont dig them in pre '65 ish sites

http://www.libertyrifles.org/research/dugtools.html

kuger: Awesome information and great link! Thank YOU! So my double head is most likely not that old?

Thats hard to say.Field experience tells me not pre 1870?Depends on ones definition of old I forget when the double bit axe was invented,but it seems it was earlier than I thought?

[stefen]

Check a post "civil war era ax?"...forum.treasure net.com/index.php/topic,443467.msg315542.HTML#

Which show a sketch of various ax heads and the region where they were developed and/or manufactured...

there are a number of double axes shown...now match your broken parts to each and determine which you may have...

The Humboldt Redwoods were harvested beginning in the 1850's thru early 1900's.

Many CW troops came from the U. S. Army Fort Humboldt in Eureka, California...there could be a connection...In addition the following officers including Ulysses S Grant, Col. Robert Buchannan, Brig General Gabriel Rains, and Dr. Lafayette Guild (who became the Medical Director under Robert E. Lee) were all posted at Fort Humboldt before participating in the CW...

[cdsieg]

Check a post "civil war era ax?"...forum.treasure net.com/index.php/topic,443467.msg315542.HTML#

Which show a sketch of various ax heads and the region where they were developed and/or manufactured...

there are a number of double axes shown...now match your broken parts to each and determine which you may have...

The Humboldt Redwoods were harvested beginning in the 1850's thru early 1900's.

Many CW troops came from the U. S. Army Fort Humboldt in Eureka, California...there could be a connection...In addition the following officers including Ulysses S Grant, Col. Robert Buchannan, Brig General Gabriel Rains, and Dr. Lafayette Guild (who became the Medical Director under Robert E. Lee) were all posted at Fort Humboldt before participating in the CW...

Stefen, wow you are very knowledgeable, thank you for the information. I tried to find that link on the axes civil war era ax "...forum.treasure net.com/index.php/topic,443467.msg315542.HTML#" but I come up empty handed. I don't really know how to search the forum so I am at a loss there. thanks again for the great information.

[Barto]

"O" appears to be part of a broken wagon spring, or wagon seat spring.

[Tigger]

we'd need to see more angles of #5 to guess, but I have a off the wall guess for #6. Some kind of damper? Not a stove, would need to be round. Dashing out of the house, or I'd try more googling, but something keeps whispering "damper" in my ear, so I'll throw it out there.

Now someone correct me! I know I've seen it somewhere!!!
Tigger

[cdsieg]

we'd need to see more angles of #5 to guess, but I have a off the wall guess for #6. Some kind of damper? Not a stove, would need to be round. Dashing out of the house, or I'd try more googling, but something keeps whispering "damper" in my ear, so I'll throw it out there.

Now someone correct me! I know I've seen it somewhere!!!
Tigger

Here are closer up photos of the ones I already have on there, they may shed a little more light until I find that special storage space!

[stefen]

Stefen, wow you are very knowledgeable, thank you for the information. I tried to find that link on the axes civil war era ax "...forum.treasure net.com/index.php/topic,443467.msg315542.HTML#" but I come up empty handed. I don't really know how to search the forum so I am at a loss there. thanks again for the great information.

Look under the category..."WHAT IS IT"

It's 10 or so posts below yours...

[kuger]

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,443467.0.html

[cdsieg]

Stefen, wow you are very knowledgeable, thank you for the information. I tried to find that link on the axes civil war era ax "...forum.treasure net.com/index.php/topic,443467.msg315542.HTML#" but I come up empty handed. I don't really know how to search the forum so I am at a loss there. thanks again for the great information.

Look under the category..."WHAT IS IT"

It's 10 or so posts below yours...

I looked, but I don't know why or what it has to do with my items, if I looked at the right one it was a lead bullet. I don't get the point of reference between the two; but then again I have been known to be a little slow at times! LOL I did get on the forum with the axe diagram, that was awesome, thanks to you and kuger.

[kuger]

The double Bit ax appears to have been invented around 1850,but given its rarity we find them in that period sites I dont think they were wildly popular,until later?

This is a PDF but has some great info
http://www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/pdfpub...Pdpi72pt03.pdf

[cdsieg]

The double Bit ax appears to have been invented around 1850,but given its rarity we find them in that period sites I dont think they were wildly popular,until later?

This is a PDF but has some great info
http://www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/pdfpub...Pdpi72pt03.pdf

Thanks again kuger, your link didn't work, but I googled it and found it here:
http://www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/pdfpub...Pdpi72pt03.pdf

awesome information and I wouldn't have found it without your help again! Thank you for giving so much of your time helping me figure out some of these things. Cindy